Spanish language learning forums

Spanish language learning forums (https://forums.tomisimo.org/index.php)
-   Vocabulary (https://forums.tomisimo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=18)
-   -   Violencia sibilina (https://forums.tomisimo.org/showthread.php?t=29092)

Violencia sibilina


Michael30000 December 01, 2024 05:27 PM

Violencia sibilina
 
Hola a todos,

La frase en cuestión es del libro Tinta invisible de Javier Peña.

Desde que vi el documental, no he parado de darle vueltas a algo que Annie Ernaux comenta hacia el final. Cuando por fin ella y su marido se separaron, él se llevó la cámara y le dejó las cintas a ella. Me parece un gesto de enorme crueldad. Me parece un gesto que dice: yo seré quien grabe nuevas cintas, seré quien viva, a ti solo te quedará el recuerdo de lo ya vivido. Por supuesto, Annie Ernaux no se ancló en absoluto en el pasado, construyó una vida nueva que la llevó hasta el premio Nobel. Pero el mensaje de su marido me pareció de una violencia sibilina: él sabía que si al cuentahistorias le quitas la capacidad de crear historias, lo estás condenando a una muerte lenta y desdichada.

Does "violencia sibilina" mean indirect violence?

Thank you.

AngelicaDeAlquezar December 01, 2024 07:29 PM

The dictionary says "sibilino" means "obscure" in the sense of "not clear", but the author seems to be using it in the sense of "wicked": the husband seems to have acted trying to inflict as much harm as possible to her.

Michael30000 December 01, 2024 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 188193)
The dictionary says "sibilino" means "obscure" in the sense of "not clear", but the author seems to be using it in the sense of "wicked": the husband seems to have acted trying to inflict as much harm as possible to her.

Thank you, Angelica.

aleCcowaN December 01, 2024 10:13 PM

Sibilina seems to be one of those words that starts to adopt a whole new meaning, like deleznable. There are people using it as a synonym of viperina, viper-like, that is, devious, but also spiteful or even treacherous.

Michael30000 December 02, 2024 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleCcowaN (Post 188196)
Sibilina seems to be one of those words that starts to adopt a whole new meaning, like deleznable. There are people using it as a synonym of viperina, viper-like, that is, devious, but also spiteful or even treacherous.

Thank you, aleC.

aleCcowaN December 02, 2024 06:43 AM

This new meaning of sibilino seems to be a phenomenom from Spain.

Here, one of many examples I found in CREA:

Quote:

Está claro que para Ramón Mendoza la presidencia del Real Madrid es ya un rasgo de su carácter. Ramón Mendoza es presidente del Real Madrid del mismo modo que es astuto, sibilino, rumboso, sarcástico, listo, arrogante y, digamos, selectivamente cordial. De haber perdido estas elecciones, Ramón Mendoza se habría quedado también sin uno de sus atributos más enraizados, habría sido como quedarse sin el pelo blanco, sin los mofletes caídos, sin su habilidad para construir frases desabridas pero no exentas de clase.

"«ELECCIONES DEL REAL MADRID». El Mundo. Madrid: Unidad Editorial, 1995"
https://www.rae.es/crea-anotado/form...rial%2C%201995

Michael30000 December 02, 2024 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleCcowaN (Post 188198)
This new meaning of sibilino seems to be a phenomenom from Spain.

Here, one of many examples I found in CREA:

Very interesting to read, thank you, aleC.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:46 AM.

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.