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Omelette and diminutives


laepelba February 22, 2009 07:32 AM

Omelette and diminutives
 
You wouldn't believe some of the crazy things I think I want to be able to say in Spanish. :) I'm just about to go downstairs to make myself an omelette. Huevos, quesa, cebollas chinas, tomates .... mmmm....

So I wondered how one would say "omelette" in Spanish. I even went to the RAE (I'm getting less and less scared of it........) :D

I keep coming up with "tortilla de huevos", which makes sense to me (I suppose). But when I looked up "tortilla" in RAE the entry starts like this:

tortilla.
(Del dim. de torta).

So, is it saying that "tortilla" is a diminutive form of "torta" (cake?)? Hmmm? Really? So it's like I'm eating a little egg cake?

chileno February 22, 2009 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 26997)
You wouldn't believe some of the crazy things I think I want to be able to say in Spanish. :) I'm just about to go downstairs to make myself an omelette. Huevos, quesa, cebollas chinas, tomates .... mmmm....

So I wondered how one would say "omelette" in Spanish. I even went to the RAE (I'm getting less and less scared of it........) :D

I keep coming up with "tortilla de huevos", which makes sense to me (I suppose). But when I looked up "tortilla" in RAE the entry starts like this:

tortilla.
(Del dim. de torta).

So, is it saying that "tortilla" is a diminutive form of "torta" (cake?)? Hmmm? Really? So it's like I'm eating a little egg cake?

Strangely enough, even if it does not mean that, you can say it could have derived from it.

Consider this.

Chico - chiquilla
Chica - chiquilla

There are many instances of this (illa/o) termination used as diminutive.

I am more accustomed with terminations (tito-ito/a)

Remember what I told you about the gastric juices? :whistling:

Hernan

laepelba February 22, 2009 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chileno (Post 27001)

Remember what I told you about the gastric juices? :whistling:

Hernan


Oh, yeah - and you oughta taste this omelette.......... mmmmmmmmm........

chileno February 22, 2009 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 27003)
Oh, yeah - and you oughta taste this omelette.......... mmmmmmmmm........

My moth just watered!!!!!!!!!! :D

CrOtALiTo February 22, 2009 09:14 AM

Laopelda Torta is not the diminutive of Tortilla.


Torta meaning other thing for example Torta is a sandwich.

Greetings.

laepelba February 22, 2009 09:24 AM

Hang on ... can sandwich (in English) also be "sandwich" (in Spanish)? That's how I learned it.

http://www.fahad.com/pics/world_most...e_sandwich.jpg

So, in Spanish, this is both a "torta" and a "sandwich"?

laepelba February 22, 2009 09:25 AM

Oh, and just to tease Hernan's gastric juices a bit, I'll throw in a pic of an omelette for good measure:

http://www.bagelandgrille.com/files/...--omelette.jpg

AngelicaDeAlquezar February 22, 2009 12:26 PM

@Lou Ann: "Torta" means a kind of sandwich only in Mexico (and only in Mexico "tortilla" doesn't mean a sort of omelette). In other countries it usually means "cake", and yes, in a sense, even in other languages, an omelette can be understood as a little egg (salted) cake.

Your sandwich picture is a "sándwich" in Mexico. "Torta" needs a thicker bread, and more typical ingredients.... but I wouldn't be bothered about it. ;)

CrOtALiTo February 22, 2009 01:41 PM

I agree with Angelica.

Jessica February 24, 2009 02:24 PM

I thought it was spelled as omelet.
By the way, we learned in Spanish class that in Spain, "tortilla" is an omelet.

poli February 24, 2009 02:45 PM

Tortilla is a think frittata type omelette in Spain made with eggs and potatoes. I'm sure you know that tortilla in Mexico is a flat corn or wheat flour bread used in enchiladas tacos and burritos. Sandwich in Spanish is sandwich or bocadillo(in Spain). Bocadillo in other countries may refer to
a kind of candy made with dulce de leche(cajeta) and guava paste.
I think the official word for sandwich in Spanish is emparedado, but I have
never seen it anywhere except in dictionaries

laepelba February 24, 2009 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchen (Post 27198)
I thought it was spelled as omelet.
By the way, we learned in Spanish class that in Spain, "tortilla" is an omelet.

There are two spellings for that word: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Omelette

chileno February 24, 2009 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poli (Post 27199)
Tortilla is a think frittata type omelette in Spain made with eggs and potatoes. I'm sure you know that tortilla in Mexico is a flat corn or wheat flour bread used in enchiladas tacos and burritos. Sandwich in Spanish is sandwich or bocadillo(in Spain). Bocadillo in other countries may refer to
a kind of candy made with dulce de leche(cajeta) and guava paste.
I think the official word for sandwich in Spanish is emparedado, but I have
never seen it anywhere except in dictionaries

Quote:

Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 27201)
There are two spellings for that word: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Omelette


Omelet would be hispanized (is that a word?) of omelette which is french.

Tortilla is like poli described . Sliced potatoes and egg, that might have chorizo, especially one that is called riojano.

@Sosia, can you send me a riojano, No hay aqui en USA. :/

I am hungry again.... :coffeebreak:

CrOtALiTo February 24, 2009 03:09 PM

Yes. I agree with Poli. Tortilla in Mexico is a kind used in Tacos or kinds of food never it will be an omelet.

Sandwich is a Torta in my country and emparedado is a Sandwich with candy inside of the breads .

I hope you have understood me.

Elaina February 24, 2009 04:00 PM

My :twocents: story.......

I recently traveled to Mexico via Aero México from Chicago. It was an early flight (breakfast flight) and when I was approached by the flight attendant about what I would like to order for breakfast, my two choices were:

Panqués........which I understood perfectly for Pancakes

AND

Omelete........:confused::thinking::?: for which my brain did a 360 flip and I could literally see the avenues of my brain being accessed for information since I didn't know what she was referring to....

I opted for the panqués (most popular choice amongst travelers on this flight) and half-way through the flight I felt my "light-bulb" :idea: go on and I knew what omelete was.

I don't think there is a word in Spanish for Omelet other than torta de huevo or huevos en torta.

poli February 24, 2009 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chileno (Post 27205)
Omelet would be hispanized (is that a word?) of omelette which is french.

Tortilla is like poli described . Sliced potatoes and egg, that might have chorizo, especially one that is called riojano.

@Sosia, can you send me a riojano, No hay aqui en USA. :/

I am hungry again.... :coffeebreak:

:shh:Sí hay tortillas españolas preparadas aqui en EEUU--that is if you consider New York to be part of the United States:D

Jessica February 24, 2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 27201)
There are two spellings for that word: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Omelette

oh I never knew there were two spellings. thank you :P

chileno February 25, 2009 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poli (Post 27226)
:shh:Sí hay tortillas españolas preparadas aqui en EEUU--that is if you consider New York to be part of the United States:D

I'd love to go to NY. You people have everything there! :-)

And they say L.A is cosmopolitan... :whistling: My foot! :D


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