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laepelba September 15, 2009 05:50 AM

Middle
 
Would someone please help me distinguish between the following words (and add more words to the list if necessary):

medio/a, mediado/a, mitad

Please give me an idea of when each is used, and some examples would be extremely helpful. Thanks!!!

Tomisimo September 15, 2009 08:12 AM

Te doy algunos ejemplos. Quizá te sirvan.

Hay tres casas y la de en medio es verde.
There are three houses and the middle one is green.

Juan es mi medio hermano.
Juan is my half brother.

I will be leaving in the middle of June.
Me voy a mediados de junio.

In the middle of the 16th century.
A mediados del siglo XVI.

Juan tiene dos hermanos, uno más grande que el, y uno más chico. Juan es el hermano de en medio.
Juan has two brothers, one is older than he is and one is younger. Juan is the middle brother.

I'm in the middle of the book. (I'm halfway through the book.)
Voy a la mitad del libro.

Se paró a media carretera.
He stood in the middle of the road.

The flowers are in the middle of the table.
Las flores están en el centro de la mesa.

Hay tres manzanas de diferentes tamaños; yo quiero la mediana.
There are three differently sized apples; I want the middle one.

Es una playera mediana.
It's a medium tee shirt.

He arrived in the middle of the morning.
El llegó a media mañana.

middle age(d) = (de) mediana edad
Middle ages = Edad Media
Middle East = Oriente Medio
middle management = gerencia intermedia
middle class = clase media

chileno September 15, 2009 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 51770)
Would someone please help me distinguish between the following words (and add more words to the list if necessary):

medio/a, mediado/a, mitad

Please give me an idea of when each is used, and some examples would be extremely helpful. Thanks!!!

Medio(s) also means means. :) By all means - por todos los medios.

Mediado also means mediated.

laepelba September 15, 2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomisimo (Post 51774)
Te doy algunos ejemplos. Quizá te sirvan.

Hay tres casas y la de en medio es verde.
There are three houses and the middle one is green.

Juan es mi medio hermano.
Juan is my half brother.

I will be leaving in the middle of June.
Me voy a mediados de junio.

In the middle of the 16th century.
A mediados del siglo XVI.

Juan tiene dos hermanos, uno más grande que el, y uno más chico. Juan es el hermano de en medio.
Juan has two brothers, one is older than he is and one is younger. Juan is the middle brother.

I'm in the middle of the book. (I'm halfway through the book.)
Voy a la mitad del libro.

Se paró a media carretera.
He stood in the middle of the road.

The flowers are in the middle of the table.
Las flores están en el centro de la mesa.

Hay tres manzanas de diferentes tamaños; yo quiero la mediana.
There are three differently sized apples; I want the middle one.

Es una playera mediana.
It's a medium tee shirt.

He arrived in the middle of the morning.
El llegó a media mañana.

middle age(d) = (de) mediana edad
Middle ages = Edad Media
Middle East = Oriente Medio
middle management = gerencia intermedia
middle class = clase media

Thanks, David - YES, very helpful indeed!! So, how exactly can I distinguish between using medio/a and mitad?

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Originally Posted by chileno (Post 51777)
Medio(s) also means means. :) By all means - por todos los medios.

Mediado also means mediated.

That's also helpful, Hernán. Thank you! :)

Tomisimo September 15, 2009 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 51862)
Thanks, David - YES, very helpful indeed!! So, how exactly can I distinguish between using medio/a and mitad?

Well, first remember that "medio" is an adjective meaning middle, and "mitad" is a noun meaning half.

chileno September 15, 2009 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomisimo (Post 51899)
Well, first remember that "medio" is an adjective meaning middle, and "mitad" is a noun meaning half.

Except when used as in half brother? ;)

María José September 16, 2009 02:09 AM

Your list is wonderful, David. There are just a couple of things I would say differently (the Atlantic as usual, I guess)
You wrote:
I'm in the middle of the book. (I'm halfway through the book.)
Voy a la mitad del libro.

Se paró a media carretera.
He stood in the middle of the road.

I would say:
Voy por la mitad del libro
Se paró en medio de la carretera.

And I love your translation of tee shirt. Here we call it camiseta.

laepelba September 16, 2009 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomisimo (Post 51899)
Well, first remember that "medio" is an adjective meaning middle, and "mitad" is a noun meaning half.

What about "two and a half" or something like that? In that case, "half" is a noun, but wouldn't you say "dos y medio"?

Also - how would you say "it's the middle of the month"? Would that use "mitad"?

pjt33 September 16, 2009 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 51915)
What about "two and a half" or something like that? In that case, "half" is a noun, but wouldn't you say "dos y medio"?

Also - how would you say "it's the middle of the month"? Would that use "mitad"?

Dos y medio, media naranja, etc, sí.

"A mediados del mes". Véase también "a principios del mes" y "a finales del mes".

chileno September 16, 2009 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by María José (Post 51906)


Se paró a media carretera.
He stood in the middle of the road.

Para mi "se paró a media carretera" significaría que mas o menos se paró a medio camino (hacia un lugar)

Se paró en el medio de la carretera would be he stood in the middle of the road.

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Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 51929)
Dos y medio, media naranja, etc, sí.

"A mediados del mes". Véase también "a principios del mes" y "a finales del mes".

También se dice "a (la) mitad del mes"

EmpanadaRica September 16, 2009 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chileno (Post 51939)
Para mi "se paró a media carretera" significaría que mas o menos se paró a medio camino (hacia un lugar)

Se paró en el medio de la carretera would be he stood in the middle of the road.

Me gusta esta distinción, tiene sentido. :) :thumbsup:

En holandés nos decimos 'halverwege' es decir 'a media carretera' / ' a medio camino' también (cuando yendo a algún lugar. 'Midden op de weg' = como 'en el medio de la carretera' entonces nosotros tenemos exactamente la misma distinción como en español. :D

Además creo que en inglés sea la diferencia entre 'halfway' y 'in the middle of the road' ¿no? :)

AngelicaDeAlquezar September 16, 2009 12:17 PM

1/2 = un medio
3/2 = tres medios

1 1/2 cucharada = una cucharada y media (de)
2 1/2 litros = dos litros y medio (de)

Para preparar el arroz, se necesitan dos tazas y media (2 1/2) de agua por cada taza y media (1 1/2) de arroz.
For cooking rice, one needs two and a half cups of water for each cup and a half of rice. (Don't try this at home, it's not true) ;)

Compré tres metros y medio de tela para hacerme un vestido.
I bought three and a half meters of cloth (?) to make myself a dress.

In mathematics: Un medio más un medio hacen un entero. 1/2 + 1/2 = 1

laepelba September 16, 2009 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 51992)
Para preparar el arroz, se necesitan dos tazas y media (2 1/2) de agua por cada taza y media (1 1/2) de arroz.
For cooking rice, one needs two and a half cups of water for each cup and a half of rice. (Don't try this at home, it's not true) ;)

Compré tres metros y medio de tela para hacerme un vestido.
I bought three and a half meters of cloth (?) to make myself a dress.


THANKS, everyone - this discussion is helpful for my thinking and trying to put sentences together!! :)

pjt33 September 16, 2009 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 51992)
Para preparar el arroz, se necesitan dos tazas y media (2 1/2) de agua por cada taza y media (1 1/2) de arroz.
For cooking rice, one needs two and a half cups of water for each cup and a half of rice. (Don't try this at home, it's not true) ;)

Me tenías preocupado... ;)

chileno September 16, 2009 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by EmpanadaRica (Post 51991)
Me gusta esta distinción, tiene sentido. :) :thumbsup:

En holandés nos decimos 'halverwege' es decir 'a media carretera' / ' a medio camino' también (cuando yendo a algún lugar. 'Midden op de weg' = como 'en el medio de la carretera' entonces nosotros tenemos exactamente la misma distinción como en español. :D

Además creo que en inglés sea la diferencia entre 'halfway' y 'in the middle of the road' ¿no? :)

Correcto.

Aunque dependería de la proposición usada en inglés.

halfway on the road to...

halfway of the road...

:)

AngelicaDeAlquezar September 16, 2009 08:29 PM

@pjt: era información "a medias", sólo para usar más "medios". ;)

chileno September 16, 2009 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar (Post 52042)
@pjt: era información "a medias", sólo para usar más "medios". ;)

:):D :lol:

Media chistosita,¿eh? :D

pjt33 September 17, 2009 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by chileno (Post 52030)
Correcto.

Aunque dependería de la proposición usada en inglés.

halfway on the road to...:thinking:

halfway of the road...:bad:

:)

Diría "halfway along the road to" y "halfway across the road".

ROBINDESBOIS September 17, 2009 02:44 AM

Tomisimo can you set some examples with MID in English??

María José September 17, 2009 04:49 AM

I can think of some, off the top of my head:
Mid-morning
In her mid forties
Mid-Atlantic
mid 1600s
mid-life crisis
I'm sure there are a lot more I cannot remember now.


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