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Cuando lleguen los libros


ROBINDESBOIS November 06, 2009 03:53 AM
Cuando lleguen los libros
 
when the books arrive ? Is that correct or a different verb is uded?

Perikles November 06, 2009 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ROBINDESBOIS (Post 59993)
when the books arrive ? Is that correct or a different verb is uded?
Difficult to say without a context. That is a subjunctive, isn't it? It might be

when the books might arrive

??

irmamar November 06, 2009 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 59995)
Difficult to say without a context. That is a subjunctive, isn't it? It might be

when the books might arrive

??
Do you form the subjunctive with "might"? Usually I'd translate your sentence into: cuando los libros puedan llegar.

:thinking:

Perikles November 06, 2009 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 60034)
Do you form the subjunctive with "might"? Usually I'd translate your sentence into: cuando los libros puedan llegar.
Sometimes, yes, but I can't think of a good example. :thinking: What does the OP mean?

irmamar November 06, 2009 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 60035)
Sometimes, yes, but I can't think of a good example. :thinking: What does the OP mean?
What OP? :confused:

Perikles November 06, 2009 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 60036)
What OP? :confused:
Cuando lleguen los libros

irmamar November 06, 2009 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 60037)
Cuando lleguen los libros
:confused: ¿OP es "cuando lleguen los libros"? :thinking: :confused:

Perikles November 06, 2009 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 60038)
:confused: ¿OP es "cuando lleguen los libros"? :thinking: :confused:
OP = Opening Post. ¿Que quiere decir "cuando lleguen los libros"? :)

irmamar November 06, 2009 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 60039)
OP = Opening Post. ¿Que quiere decir "cuando lleguen los libros"? :)
Ah, Opening Post! I didn't know it. I don't know your odd abbreviation :confused:

I'd say "when the books arrived", but I'm not a native. :thinking:

Tengo unos libros encargados en la librería de la esquina. Me ha dicho el dependiente que cuando lleguen los libros me avisará.

:)

Perikles November 06, 2009 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 60040)
I'd say "when the books arrived", but I'm not a native. :thinking:

Tengo unos libros encargados en la librería de la esquina. Me ha dicho el dependiente que cuando lleguen los libros me avisará.

:)
Ah. Entonces arrived es subjuntivo. Gracias :)

irmamar November 06, 2009 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 60042)
Ah. Entonces arrived es subjuntivo. Gracias :)
Entonces sin "might", ¿no? Gracias a ti. :)

Perikles November 06, 2009 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 60044)
Entonces sin "might"
correcto.

Might is obscure:

Fuimos a Seville para que Pepe conociera a su abuela
We went to Seville so that Pepe could meet his grandmother.:good:
We went to Seville so that Pepe might meet his grandmother.:good:

Lo discutiremos, de manera que lleguemos a una conclusión lo antes posible.
We'll discuss it, so that we may reach a conclusion as soon as possible.:good:
We'll discuss it, so that we might reach a conclusion as soon as possible.:good:

irmamar November 06, 2009 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 60047)
correcto.

Might is obscure:

Fuimos a Seville para que Pepe conociera a su abuela
We went to Seville so that Pepe could meet his grandmother.:good:
We went to Seville so that Pepe might meet his grandmother.:good:

Lo discutiremos, de manera que lleguemos a una conclusión lo antes posible.
We'll discuss it, so that we may reach a conclusion as soon as possible.:good:
We'll discuss it, so that we might reach a conclusion as soon as possible.:good:
But in those sentences, I could say "pudiera" or "podamos":

Fuimos a Sevilla para que Pepe pudiera conocer a su abuela.
Lo discutiremos para que podamos llegar a una conclusión...

Perikles November 06, 2009 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 60050)
But in those sentences, I could say "pudiera" or "podamos":

Fuimos a Sevilla para que Pepe pudiera conocer a su abuela.
Lo discutiremos para que podamos llegar a una conclusión...
Yes, but the might and may express the subjunctive in English in this kind of construction.:)

irmamar November 06, 2009 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 60054)
Yes, but the might and may express the subjunctive in English in this kind of construction.:)
OK, I see. Thanks :)

ROBINDESBOIS November 06, 2009 12:04 PM
Context:
Cuando los libros lleguen, empezaremos de lleno con el programa.
Can you translate that Perikles?

Perikles November 06, 2009 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ROBINDESBOIS (Post 60083)
Context:
Cuando los libros lleguen, empezaremos de lleno con el programa.
Can you translate that Perikles?
When the books arrive, we shall start (de lleno - from scratch??) with the programme.

irmamar November 06, 2009 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 60086)
When the books arrive, we shall start (de lleno - from scratch??) with the programme.
Why not arrived, here?

ROBINDESBOIS November 06, 2009 12:10 PM
because arrived follows an if sentence and other fixed expressions.

De lleno means to devote your time completetly to the book.
Anyway idf you live In Tenerife you should know the expression or not?

Perikles November 06, 2009 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Perikles (Post 60086)
When the books arrive, we shall start (de lleno - from scratch??) with the programme.
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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 60088)
Why not arrived, here?
OK - also:

When the books have arrived, we shall start (de lleno - from scratch??) with the programme.

In this case, both present and perfect are correct. :crazy:


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