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Llegar y besar al santo


ROBINDESBOIS November 07, 2009 03:13 AM

Llegar y besar al santo
 
When someone arrives at a place, I doesn´t have to wait, because he does what he intended to 1st thing, we say, llegar y besar el santo.
English?

Perikles November 07, 2009 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ROBINDESBOIS (Post 60232)
When someone arrives at a place, I doesn´t have to wait, because he does what he intended to 1st thing, we say, llegar y besar el santo.
English?

I don't.
I don't quite understand. Give an example.

EmpanadaRica November 07, 2009 05:50 AM

Hmmm not sure either. :)

Maybe Robin means like someone getting/ coming straight to business?

To cut to the chase? Something like this? :confused:

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cut to the chase (informal)
to talk about or deal with the important parts of a subject and not waste time with things that are not important I didn't have long to talk to him so I cut to the chase and asked whether he was still married.
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/cut+to+the+chase

laepelba November 07, 2009 05:58 AM

Maybe something like "get right down to business"?

irmamar November 07, 2009 06:31 AM

Not exactly. It is used when somebody is successful at the first attempt. For instance, you're playing with a slot machine, but you don't earn any money and stop playing. Then, somebody goes to the machine, inserts a coin and earns a lot of money: llegó y besó al santo.

Another example: you go to a foreigner country. The first day you are there, someone offers you a very good job: llegaste y besaste al santo.

I guess its origin is due to the congregation, when they wanted to give a kiss to the image of a Saint. They used to wait for a long time in a queue until they arrived to the image. If someone was able to arrive to the image without waiting in the queue, because at that moment there weren't so much people waiting, él llegó y besó al santo.
:)

Perikles November 07, 2009 07:29 AM

Thanks. I can't think of anything equivalent in English. :thinking:

Rusty November 07, 2009 07:42 AM

If we're going shopping, and we go right to the item we're after and are able to get right out without waiting in line, we say:
I was in and out (in a flash).

'I got right in' can be used in many contexts, especially if there's no waiting in line.
At the supermarket: I got right in and out.
At the soccer match: We got right in, and had plenty of time to visit and buy concessions before the game started.

'First try', or 'first attempt (more formal)', would be used in the case of the slot machine. 'I won the jackpot on my first try.' You could also say 'I won the jackpot first thing.'
'First thing' usually implies 'without a wait, or directly'. We got there first thing (in the morning). (We were first to arrive. We went nowhere else first.)

If you were to move to a foreign country and immediately land a job, that would be considered a piece of good fortune/luck, and you could describe it as a windfall.

EmpanadaRica November 07, 2009 09:07 AM

Interesting expression. :D :thumbsup:

Perhaps you could also say 'to get lucky' (eventhough this is obviously often used predominantly in sexual contexts..:D .. also it kind of lacks the 'right away/ straight away' component, but I guess you could say ' I got lucky right away'.:D)

It's interesting because the example Robin gave implied that the person who 'llegó y besó al santo' has some kind of 'control' i.e. like he or she can determine the outcome, whereas what irma describes seems to me to be more about good fortune or luck.:confused:

In which of the contexts is it more frequently used, or is it used in both? :)


PS Would this also be used in the context of e.g. '(Lying down on) a bed of roses' ? Or is there another expression in Spanish that would be more suitable? :)

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bed of roses
n. A state of great comfort or luxury.

: a place or situation of agreeable ease

ROBINDESBOIS November 07, 2009 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by EmpanadaRica (Post 60314)
Interesting expression. :D :thumbsup:

'to get lucky' (eventhough this is obviously often used predominantly in sexual contexts..:D .. also it kind of lacks the 'right away/ straight away' component, but I guess you could say ' I got lucky right away'.:D)
this can also be used in Spanish, I mean in sexual contexts.

who 'llegó y besó al santo' has some kind of 'control' (There is no control it´s more a question of luck ) sorry if I didn´t express myself well enough. In which of the contexts is it more frequently used, or is it used in both? :)


PS Would this also be used in the context of e.g. '(Lying down on) a bed of roses' ? Or is there another expression in Spanish that would be more suitable? :)

It´s used in every context.

EmpanadaRica November 07, 2009 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ROBINDESBOIS (Post 60316)
It´s used in every context.

¡Está bien, gracias Robin! :) :thumbsup:

pjt33 November 07, 2009 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EmpanadaRica (Post 60314)
Perhaps you could also say 'to get lucky' (eventhough this is obviously often used predominantly in sexual contexts..:D .. also it kind of lacks the 'right away/ straight away' component, but I guess you could say ' I got lucky right away'.:D)

"To strike it lucky" significa más o menos lo mismo salvo que sin las connotaciones sexuales.

"He didn't have to queue" bastaría en muchos contextos. (Sólo si se supone que normalmente hay una cola literal).

EmpanadaRica November 07, 2009 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 60348)
"To strike it lucky" significa más o menos lo mismo salvo que sin las connotaciones sexuales.

Good addition. :) :thumbsup:

Just out of curiosity, this 'strikes' (to stick with the theme :p ..'strike' also being an interesting word in terms of said 'sexual connotations' :p) me to be a British expression especially, or is it also used (i.e. equally frequently) by American English natives? :)

Rusty November 07, 2009 08:40 PM

To strike it lucky is also used in America, according to my sources. ;)

To strike it rich is a phrase I tend to hear more often. Both sayings can be used to describe a sudden, unexpected windfall of some sort, but they also have their respective differences in meaning.

EmpanadaRica November 07, 2009 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 60399)
To strike it lucky is also used in America, according to my sources. ;)

To strike it rich is a phrase I tend to hear more often. Both sayings can be used to describe a sudden, unexpected windfall of some sort, but they also have their respective differences in meaning.

Ok thanx Rusty! :D

Suddenly I remember a certain brand of cigarettes.. :rolleyes: :D

http://dulciii.files.wordpress.com/2...trike-copy.jpg

By the way what is it with sports/baseball and sexual references? :D (strike (out), score, second/third base etc..? :confused: :p)

ROBINDESBOIS November 08, 2009 03:00 AM

Can anybody give an example with strike it lucky and windfall, I got lost. Thanks

Perikles November 08, 2009 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ROBINDESBOIS (Post 60442)
Can anybody give an example with strike it lucky and windfall, I got lost. Thanks

I decided to try playing poker last night, and I struck it lucky. (= I won a lot)
I applied for all kinds of jobs and I struck it lucky (=I found a brilliant job)

My neighbour had a windfall today, he won the lottery.

ROBINDESBOIS November 08, 2009 06:37 AM

Gracias PERIKLES.

pjt33 November 08, 2009 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by EmpanadaRica (Post 60368)
Just out of curiosity, this 'strikes' (to stick with the theme :p ..'strike' also being an interesting word in terms of said 'sexual connotations' :p) me to be a British expression especially, or is it also used (i.e. equally frequently) by American English natives? :)

¿En serio? No lo conozco con esas connotaciones.

Creo que las dos frases ("to strike it lucky" y "to strike it rich") tienen sus orígenes en las minerías: golpeas (golpear :approx: strike) con tu pico y das con una vena de oro o de diamantes. Eso requiere mucha suerte y te puede hacer rico (aunque en California en el 1849 los que si se hicieron ricos eran los vendedores de picos y de comida).

EmpanadaRica November 08, 2009 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 60482)
¿En serio? No lo conozco con esas connotaciones.

Creo que las dos frases ("to strike it lucky" y "to strike it rich") tienen sus orígenes en las minerías: golpeas (golpear :approx: strike) con tu pico y das con una vena de oro o de diamantes. Eso requiere mucha suerte y te puede hacer rico (aunque en California en el 1849 los que si se hicieron ricos eran los vendedores de picos y de comida).

Muy interesante, tiene sentido! :thumbsup: :p

Yes I think I have heard/seen 'strike' used in these contexts a few times (in tv-series anyway :D). Perhaps it's more the 'slang' use but for instance 'to strike out' when a woman (or man) turns you down or e.g. in the sense of masturbation.

strike the pink match:
Jocular coinage for male masturbation .

http://www.sex-lexis.com/Sex-Diction...20pink%20match

(See also Urban Dictionary for a few other references).

irmamar November 08, 2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EmpanadaRica (Post 60485)
Muy interesante, tiene sentido! :thumbsup: :p

Yes I think I have heard/seen 'strike' used in these contexts a few times (in tv-series anyway :D). Perhaps it's more the 'slang' use but for instance 'to strike out' when a woman (or man) turns you down or e.g. in the sense of masturbation.

strike the pink match:
Jocular coinage for male masturbation .

http://www.sex-lexis.com/Sex-Diction...20pink%20match

(See also Urban Dictionary for a few other references).

Pues cuando se entere el santo hasta dónde ha llegado su hilo :eek: :D


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