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Gentilicio


laepelba March 26, 2010 03:35 PM

Gentilicio
 
I have always found it interesting to find out what one calls people from a certain place. In English, if you're from Buffalo, you are a Buffalonian. If you are from New York, you are a New Yorker. If you are from Michigan, you are a Michigander. Etc.

I am enjoying learning how some of these terms are used in Spanish: if you are from Lima: Limeño/a, etc.

A few days ago, my friend who is Limeña was telling me that people from Buenos Aires often call themselves "Porteños", and that these terms are called "gentilicio". She asked what the word is in English, and I don't believe that we have one.

Is there an equivalent or parallel English term? Or do we just say "what people from a certain place are called"?

pjt33 March 26, 2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 77748)
Or do we just say "what people from a certain place are called"?

That's pretty much what the Oxford dictionary says.

laepelba March 26, 2010 05:23 PM

Do you have a link for that?

pjt33 March 27, 2010 01:37 AM

No, I have a dead tree version.

María José March 27, 2010 05:12 AM

Apparently there is the word gentilic :eek: (but it's an adjective). I don't think it's very often used, though.
e.g. What are people from Madrid called? = What is the gentilic for Madrid?
Madrileño or gato.:D

laepelba March 27, 2010 05:49 AM

I have continued to research this and have found both "gentilic" and "demonym". I've never heard either word, and one reference mentioned that they're not really used anymore in contemporary English. Maybe they should be. :)

chileno March 27, 2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 77748)
I have always found it interesting to find out what one calls people from a certain place. In English, if you're from Buffalo, you are a Buffalonian. If you are from New York, you are a New Yorker. If you are from Michigan, you are a Michigander. Etc.

I am enjoying learning how some of these terms are used in Spanish: if you are from Lima: Limeño/a, etc.

A few days ago, my friend who is Limeña was telling me that people from Buenos Aires often call themselves "Porteños", and that these terms are called "gentilicio". She asked what the word is in English, and I don't believe that we have one.

Is there an equivalent or parallel English term? Or do we just say "what people from a certain place are called"?

They are very proud of being an international sea port, that's what it means.

;)

laepelba March 27, 2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by chileno (Post 77791)
They are very proud of being an international sea port, that's what it means.

;)

Right - I knew that much. Isn't there also a city in Spain from which the people are called Porteños?

chileno March 27, 2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 77797)
Right - I knew that much. Isn't there also a city in Spain from which the people are called Porteños?

I am not sure.

In Chile, people from Valparaíso se hacen llamar porteños, so I guess everybody, who lives by the sea, wants to be called like that...

María José March 27, 2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by laepelba (Post 77797)
Right - I knew that much. Isn't there also a city in Spain from which the people are called Porteños?

I have never heard the word used for Spanish people, but one of the definitions of porteño according to the Real Academia Española is the following:
Natural de algunas de las ciudades de España y América en las que hay puerto

xchic March 28, 2010 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by María José (Post 77832)
I have never heard the word used for Spanish people, but one of the definitions of porteño according to the Real Academia Española is the following:
Natural de algunas de las ciudades de España y América en las que hay puerto

That definition just reminded me that we often say that we are natives of somewhere.

For instance I'm a native of London or I'm a native Londoner.

irmamar March 28, 2010 02:44 AM

In Spain we have two "porteños": Puerto de Sagunto (Valencia) and Puerto de Santa María in Cádiz (portuenses or porteños). :)

poli March 31, 2010 12:35 PM

I corresponded with an Argentinian in this forum regarding the term Porteño. I wasn't sure which term Porteño or Bonaerence was
preferred. I was told that porteño can sound a little disrespectful. Nevertheless it sounds more graceful to me than Bonaerence.

pjt33 March 31, 2010 12:52 PM

Es "bonaerense" con ese. (Y un ejemplo interesante del cambio de vocales según el estrés en español).

chileno March 31, 2010 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by poli (Post 78222)
I corresponded with an Argentinian in this forum regarding the term Porteño. I wasn't sure which term Porteño or Bonaerence was
preferred. I was told that porteño can sound a little disrespectful. Nevertheless it sounds more graceful to me than Bonaerence.

It depends from where is the person. A Bonaerense will tell you proudly that he or she is porteñ@.

Although it can be used in an offensive way.

irmamar April 01, 2010 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 78225)
Es "bonaerense" con ese. (Y un ejemplo interesante del cambio de vocales según el estrés en español).

Según el acento o la zona en que se hable. Estrés es otra cosa.

pjt33 April 01, 2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 78260)
Según el acento o la zona en que se hable. Estrés es otra cosa.

Estoy hablando de bonaerense vs Buenos Aires.

AngelicaDeAlquezar April 01, 2010 02:26 PM

@pjt: Creo que sigue siendo "acento" (o derivación de las palabras). "Estrés" es tensión nerviosa. :)

pjt33 April 01, 2010 02:36 PM

Pues eso. Gracias.

laepelba June 07, 2011 08:10 PM

Acabo de descubrir esta página: http://buscon.rae.es/dpdI/apendices/apendice5.html - con todos los países y sus capitales y muchos gentilicios........


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