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¿Conejo = guardametas?


pjt33 June 19, 2010 08:05 AM
¿Conejo = guardametas?
 
En el partido Francia - México creo que uno de los comentaristas llamó muchos veces al portero mexicano "el conejo Pérez". ¿Es un sinónimo de "guardametas" o "portero"*, un apodo, algo que he oído mal, un peyorativo racista?


* En este contexto, claro. Ya sé que tiene otras acepciones...

chileno June 19, 2010 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pjt33 (Post 86874)
En el partido Francia - México creo que uno de los comentaristas llamó muchos veces al portero mexicano "el conejo Pérez". ¿Es un sinónimo de "guardametas" o "portero"*, un apodo, algo que he oído mal, un peyorativo racista?


* En este contexto, claro. Ya sé que tiene otras acepciones...
Un apodo, que se refiere a que salta muy bien y es rápido para reaccionar.

AngelicaDeAlquezar June 19, 2010 11:24 AM
@pjt: sinónimos de "guardameta" pueden ser "portero" o "arquero".

A pesar de que los apodos pueden ser peyorativos, en muchos países y en muchos contextos, se usan para marcar una relación afectuosa, o en el caso de alguien famoso, como un futbolista, de admiración.

Los apodos tienden a ponerse entre el nombre de pila y el apellido de una persona, como un middlename: "Óscar, el Conejo, Pérez". Cuando el apodo sustituye al nombre propio, tiende a usarse con el apellido: "El Conejo (en vez de Óscar) Pérez"

A Óscar Pérez lo llaman "el conejo", se dice, por la fuerza de sus saltos al ir por el balón.

JPablo June 19, 2010 01:08 PM
Interestingly enough, Lionel Messi, is called "la Pulga" (the Flea) of all names... and this is actually laudatory... Ni kidding and no pun intended. You can check the 198,000 hits in Google, if you search for "Messi" "la Pulga". (He has been the player with more goals in Europe this year, repeating from last.) (He plays with FC Barcelona and is now playing with the Argentinian selection.) Goes to show that words that 'out of context' may be derogatory, when used in other context, or referred to some specific icon, lose any negative connotation. It is hard to explain, but it is a fact. :)

chileno June 19, 2010 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JPablo (Post 86879)
Interestingly enough, Lionel Messi, is called "la Pulga" (the Flea) of all names... and this is actually laudatory... Ni kidding and no pun intended. You can check the 198,000 hits in Google, if you search for "Messi" "la Pulga". (He has been the player with more goals in Europe this year, repeating from last.) (He plays with FC Barcelona and is now playing with the Argentinian selection.) Goes to show that words that 'out of context' may be derogatory, when used in other context, or referred to some specific icon, lose any negative connotation. It is hard to explain, but it is a fact. :)
What I am not sure of, is if our English speaking friends understand why he's called "la pulga"... :)

JPablo June 19, 2010 03:07 PM
Well, it is because he is so small... here I quote from one site,

Since his childhood, his style was marked by a great speed, very difficult to control, smart and quick. Actually, he makes the defenders feel dizzy; that’s why he was called “la pulga,” "flea," in English.

He is quite a nightmare to defend... I've seen one of his goals, with 4 defenders in front of him, and the goalkeeper... un---believable!

pjt33 June 19, 2010 03:07 PM
Gracias, majos.

JPablo June 19, 2010 03:36 PM
¡De nada, colega! :)


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