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Forfeit


irmamar January 07, 2011 02:38 AM

Forfeit
 
What does forfait mean in this sentence?

When Philip II abandoned John's cause, declared his French lands forfeit.

Thanks. :)

Perikles January 07, 2011 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 103035)
What does forfait mean in this sentence?

When Philip II abandoned John's cause, declared his French lands forfeit.

Thanks. :)

A forfeit is something you lose as a penalty for a crime. So somebody's lands were confiscated as a punishment for being disloyal. (Your sentence does not quite make sense).

It can also be used in a more trivial sense: A prisoner forfeits the right to vote in an election (i.e. as a further punishment, a right to vote is removed from him)

And also in cards games. In some games, if you lose, you forfeit something - usually an item of clothing :eek::eek::D

Awaken January 07, 2011 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 103035)
What does forfait mean in this sentence?

When Philip II abandoned John's cause, declared his French lands forfeit.

Thanks. :)

Well, what you wrote above is not actually a complete sentence. It is grammatically incorrect, so hopefully the book includes a noun for the sentence.

Anyway, forfeit in this case means lost as a penalty of some action.

The other common use is in sports as a verb.
"The team had to forfeit the game because they only had 3 players."
In this sense, they had to give up the victory and lost the game as a penalty for not meeting the rules of the game.

Hope that helps.

chileno January 07, 2011 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 103035)
What does forfait mean in this sentence?

When Philip II abandoned John's cause, declared his French lands forfeit.

Thanks. :)

forfeit as a verb = ceder/abandonar los derechos a/de algo.

forfeit as a noun = pena/penalidad

irmamar January 07, 2011 12:37 PM

I'll write the complet sentence:

Problems arose when Philip A. abandoned John's cause and, as his feudal overlord, declared his French lands forfeit.

Abandoned, maybe? :thinking:

Perikles January 07, 2011 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by irmamar (Post 103084)
I'll write the complet sentence:

Problems arose when Philip A. abandoned John's cause and, as his feudal overlord, declared his French lands forfeit.

Abandoned, maybe? :thinking:

No - confiscated.

irmamar January 09, 2011 12:22 PM

Confiscated! Thank you! :)


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