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Old June 16, 2015, 11:29 PM
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Disciplined/disciplinary

-Immigration officers have fewer dangerous duties than people in other disciplined forces.
-Immigration officers have fewer dangerous duties than people in other disciplinary forces.

Are they just the same thing?
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Old June 17, 2015, 05:20 AM
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These sentences do not mean the same thing.
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Old June 18, 2015, 01:51 AM
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1. But are they both correct?
2. What's the difference?

disciplined=have to listen to orders from above
disciplinary=related to discipline
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Both sentences are correct, but do not mean the same thing.

disciplined = behavior in accord with rules of conduct; behavior and order maintained by training and command; rigorous

disciplinary = enforcing or administrating discipline

The former describes the behavior or characteristic of a group. The latter describes a directive or function of a group.
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Grammatically both sentences are correct. However, and this may be a cultural thing, to call immigration officers members of a "disciplinary force" sounds wrong to me. The term is clearly appropriate for prison officers, and seems reasonable to apply to police officers who have the power to issue formal cautions and/or small fines and, maybe, magistrates, but I can't think of any other institution for which it seems suitable.
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Grammatically both sentences are correct. However, and this may be a cultural thing, to call immigration officers members of a "disciplinary force" sounds wrong to me. The term is clearly appropriate for prison officers, and seems reasonable to apply to police officers who have the power to issue formal cautions and/or small fines and, maybe, magistrates, but I can't think of any other institution for which it seems suitable.
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Constabulary may be a better term than disciplinary.
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