No Que

[BrownShot]

Ok. The phrase: ¿No que?

I first ran into it while reading an article in the San Antonio Current, talking about different and new spanish colloquialisms. The author of the column was the guy who writes those "Ask a Mexican!" Columns for the S.A. Current.

In any case, not sure how widespread it is, or even if it's still in use. But the column said that it was an equivalent to "¿No es verdad?"

So, I'm interested in hearing about local equivalents or slang in your part of the world that may be used to essentially mean "¿No es verdad?"

Thank you.

[Luna Azul]

Originally Posted by BrownShot

Ok. The phrase: ¿No que?

I first ran into it while reading an article in the San Antonio Current, talking about different and new spanish colloquialisms. The author of the column was the guy who writes those "Ask a Mexican!" Columns for the S.A. Current.

In any case, not sure how widespread it is, or even if it's still in use. But the column said that it was an equivalent to "¿No es verdad?"

So, I'm interested in hearing about local equivalents or slang in your part of the world that may be used to essentially mean "¿No es verdad?"

Thank you.

"¿No que....?" is a very Mexican expression. I can tell when a person is from Mexico when he says it, among other expressions.

It's not exactly equivalent to "¿no es verdad?" but they're somehow related.

I say "¿No dizque.....?"

[chileno]

Originally Posted by Luna Azul

"¿No que....?" is a very Mexican expression. I can tell when a person is from Mexico when he says it, among other expressions.

It's not exactly equivalent to "¿no es verdad?" but they're somehow related.

I say "¿No dizque.....?"

Aha!

Colombia, or around there?

[Luna Azul]

Originally Posted by chileno

Aha!

Colombia, or around there?

Smart boy

[chileno]

Originally Posted by Luna Azul

Smart boy

Are you? Or are you pulling my leg?

[Luna Azul]

Originally Posted by chileno

Are you? Or are you pulling my leg?

No, I'm not a "smart boy".. I'm a "smart girl"

[AngelicaDeAlquezar]

That must be an expression from Northern Mexico or from Mexicans living in the U.S.A. I've never heard that in the central regions of the country.

When we ask the equivalent of "¿no es verdad?" we usually say "¿verdad?" or simply "¿no?".

--Le dijiste que viniera, ¿verdad?/¿no?
You asked him to come, didn't you?/right?

--No terminaste el trabajo, ¿verdad?
You didn't finish the job, right?/did you?


"¿No que?" looks like an incomplete expression for me. We would use it to ask why something didn't turn out the way it was expected, like:

-¿No que ibas a llegar temprano?
Weren't you supposed to arrive early?

-¿No que te querías casar conmigo?
Didn't you want to marry me?

-¿No que no te gustaban los mariscos?
I thought you didn't like seafood?


As an exclamation, "¡No que!" means "no way":

--¿Te vas a casar con María? (Are you going to marry María?)
--¡No que! Ni loco. (Noway! I'm not crazy.)

--Me quería subir a la montaña rusa, pero ¡no que! está muy alta.
I wanted to ride on the roller coaster, but noway! it's too high.


We use "dizque" to express that we doubt something is the way it was said it would/should be:

-Dizque los OVNIS hicieron esos dibujos.
-They say the UFOs made those drawings.

-Me dieron una revista dizque gratis cuando compré la otra, pero yo creo ya estaba incluida en el precio.
-I was given a magazine supposedly for free when I bought the other one, but I think it was already included in the price.

-María dizque vino a ayudar, pero yo la vi todo el tiempo sentada en un rincón.
-María was supposed to come to help, but I saw her all the time sitting in a corner.

[chileno]

Originally Posted by Luna Azul

No, I'm not a "smart boy".. I'm a "smart girl"

[Luna Azul]

AngelicaDeAlquezar - We would use it to ask why something didn't turn out the way it was expected

-¿No que ibas a llegar temprano?

I thought that's what BrownShot was asking, wasn't it? Maybe I missunderstood the question.

I meant to say that when you Mexicans say "¿No que? we say "¿No dizque?"

You say ¿No que ibas a llegar temprano?

I say ¿no dizque ibas a llegar temprano?

AngelicaDeAlquezar - We use "dizque" to express that we doubt something is the way it was said it would/should be

So do we. But we also use it in the negative questions above.

I don't think anybody anywhere uses "¿no que?" at the end of a sentence meaning "¿no es verdad?".

"Ella vino anoche, ¿no es verdad?" "Ella vino anoche, ¿no que?"

I'm getting myself all confused now.. sorry..

[Elaina]

¿No que? (understood as ¿No que no?)
-Ya no quiero salir con Ricardo nunca más.
...A los tres dias Ricardo me invita a salir y salgo con el. Mi amiga me dice: ¿No que...... (no que no ibas a salir con el)

-Ya no quiero trabajar.
....me hablan para darme otra asignación y la acepto. Mi compañera de trabajo me dice: ¿No que....(no que ya no querias trabajar)

etc. etc. etc.

[Luna Azul]

Originally Posted by Elaina

¿No que? (understood as ¿No que no?)
-Ya no quiero salir con Ricardo nunca más.
...A los tres dias Ricardo me invita a salir y salgo con el. Mi amiga me dice: ¿No que...... (no que no ibas a salir con el)

-Ya no quiero trabajar.
....me hablan para darme otra asignación y la acepto. Mi compañera de trabajo me dice: ¿No que....(no que ya no querias trabajar)

etc. etc. etc.

¿Lo dices así solo? ¿sin terminar la frase y sólo con frases negativas?

Entonces será cierto lo que Angélica dice, es algo que solo se usa en algunas partes del México y tal vez en los estados americanos cerca a la frontera.

Interesante..

[poli]

You don't mean ¡que no! do you?
I have heard que no used among Latin Americans, and it is a very emphatic no.

[Luna Azul]

Originally Posted by poli

You don't mean ¡que no! do you?
I have heard que no used among Latin Americans, and it is a very emphatic no.

That's something totally different. It means "I said no!"
"no que" means something like "didn't you say/hadn't you said that.....?"

"Hadn't you said that you were studying?"
"No habías dicho que estabas estudiando?"
"¿No que estabas estudiando?"

In other countries we say "¿No dizque estabas estudiando?

It would be interested to know how this is said in countries like Argentina and Chile.. or around there.

[chileno]

Originally Posted by Luna Azul

That's something totally different. It means "I said no!"
"no que" means something like "didn't you say/hadn't you said that.....?"

"Hadn't you said that you were studying?"
"No habías dicho que estabas estudiando?"
"¿No que estabas estudiando?"

In other countries we say "¿No dizque estabas estudiando?

It would be interesting to know how if this is said in countries like Argentina and Chile.. or around there.

Not in Chile, we would say "ah, que no iba a.... (etc)"

[AngelicaDeAlquezar]

@Poli: "¿Qué, no?" is also very Mexican indeed (plenty of examples in Pedro Infante movies), and it would certainly express "¿Verdad que sí?".

Vas a venir a verme, ¿qué, no?
You're coming to see me, aren't you?

Finalmente compraste el coche, ¿qué, no?
So you finally bought the car, didn't you?

Querías hacer la fiesta, ¿qué, no? Pues ahora paga las cuentas.
You wanted to make the party, didn't you? So pay the bills now.

[Luna Azul]

Considering all the language variations in the Spanish speaking countries it's amazing that we can still understand each other..

[chileno]

Originally Posted by Luna Azul

Considering all the language variations in the Spanish speaking countries it's amazing that we can still understand each other..

Not amazing since these are also variations of sayings...Que no?

[Luna Azul]

Originally Posted by chileno

Not amazing since these are also variations of sayings...Que no?

Some of the vocabulary can be very different. I had a hard time talking to a guy from Uruguay once. I know the grammar is the same, but the words change.

Maybe it's just me..

[poli]

I think it's all in the comma. Qué no without the comma sounds chocante.

By the way, I have a friend whose mother is Mexican. She often finishes her sentence with "no?" It's very much like qué, no in Mexican Spanish.

[chileno]

Originally Posted by poli

I think it's all in the comma. Qué no without the comma sounds chocante.

By the way, I have a friend whose mother is Mexican. She often finishes her sentence with "no?" It's very much like qué, no in Mexican Spanish.

Que no? es sin coma.

No? it is the same. We use a it a lot.