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Old September 26, 2012, 06:29 AM
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Exclamation Ciudad señorial

Dresde es una ciudad muy señorial.
Dresden is a very elegant/regal city.
Which one fits better elegant or regal or is there a better adjective?
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Old September 26, 2012, 07:00 AM
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Dresde es una ciudad muy señorial.
Dresden is a very elegant/regal city.
Which one fits better elegant or regal or is there a better adjective?
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Dresden is a very noble city.

I think that is better
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Old September 26, 2012, 07:11 AM
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How about 'stately'?
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Old September 26, 2012, 11:14 AM
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I believe (per Oxford bilingual) "stately" collocates better with "casa" as in "stately home", although "A stately city in a green valley, where marble streets and statues, villas and..." probably fits the bill perfectly.

Stately as "majestuosa" sounds close enough to "señorial".

"Noble" as given by Perikles and Oxford, "noble city" seems better than "regal" (regia, fastuosa, principesca, majestuoso...)

Probably Perikles or Pjt33 have the last word on this, but IMHO, after looking at this, probably 'stately' is the best...

An example, googling "stately city":

From stately City to Crumbling Symbol of Isolation
Myanmar's former capital and biggest city is a crumbling monument to almost half a century of isolation and mismanagement...
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Old September 26, 2012, 12:16 PM
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Hmmmm. The trouble is that 'stately' is usually reserved for a specific house of the aristocracy in England. Not a town. I'm not quite sure
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I wonder what are the particular characteristics of a city that make it "señorial"?

rae.es gives "majestuoso, noble" as one of its definitions. What about "majestic" (defined in Oxford as "having or showing impressive beauty, scale, or dignity.")?
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Yes...

Moliner gives "propio de señor" i.e., characteristic of a Sir, or a Lord...

It could be "lordly" but without arrogance...

Well, Wiki gives this for Ponce

Ponce is often referred to as La Perla del Sur (The Pearl of the South), La Ciudad Señorial (The Noble, or Lordly, City), and La Ciudad de las Quenepas
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patrician city?

The linguee dictionary gives one meaning of señorial as 'patrician' when referring to a city.

"La misteriosa cultura talayótica de Menorca, la ciudad señorial de Ciutadella"

" Menorca's mysterious talayotic culture, the patrician city of Ciutadella"


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Sounds like "patrician" may be a valid option, but to me, the "Roman" connotation is too strong to use it indiscriminately...

The "aristocratic" connotation is there, but I think I'd go with Perikles option,

Dresden is a very noble city

Or maybe,

Dresden is a very elegantly aristocratic city... or some such periphrasis.

Well, at least Robin got some different options to choose...
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Noble souns fine to me.
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Sounds like "patrician" may be a valid option, but to me, the "Roman" connotation is too strong to use it indiscriminately...

The "aristocratic" connotation is there, but I think I'd go with Perikles option,

Dresden is a very noble city

Or maybe,

Dresden is a very elegantly aristocratic city... or some such periphrasis.

Well, at least Robin got some different options to choose...
Señorial it is said about a soberly designed, skinfully executed and made of high quality mayerials thing that has an noble and aristocratic apparience. I Belice you name a "casa señorial" as a Manor or feudal house, i don't like the términos stately house because for me it has a oldish meaning, as if considering an old and big house could be refered to the same say We would refered to an house made of noble wood, masterly built, worn with delicate but heavy curtains, Spider lamps made of fine glass and bedrooms built following an Well planned distribution that provided privacy, stable temperature and a feeling of security given by the thick wall covered by a fine pannelling enforcing the isolation on the room's inhabitant.
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