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Old February 10, 2009, 10:34 PM
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la verdad me gusta todo pero lo que mas me apaciona es viajar o las prendas asi sean de vestir

the truth is i like everything but i am most passionate about traveling or turn ons like dressing up/clothing
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Old February 10, 2009, 11:07 PM
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la verdad me gusta todo pero lo que mas me apaciona es viajar o las prendas asi sean de vestir

the truth is i like everything but i am most passionate about traveling or turn ons like dressing up/clothing
I will correct you, and I bid you welcome.


La verdad me gusta todo pero lo que mas me apaciona es viajar a donde se, y me gusta tambien las prendas asi ellas sean solo de vestir.

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la verdad me gusta todo pero lo que mas me apaciona es viajar o las prendas asi sean de vestir

the truth is i like everything but i am most passionate about traveling or turn ons like dressing up/clothing
The author of the sentence needs to work on punctuation and spelling.
Your translation is good, albeit 'spiced up'.

The sentence should read:
La verdad es que* me gusta todo, pero lo que más me apasiona es viajar o las prendas, así sean, de vestir.

Here is the translation I would give:
The truth is, I like everything; but I am most passionate about traveling or clothing.

The así sean phrase introduces de vestir, which clarifies las prendas.

*I added these so that others could make the connection between your translation and the omitted Spanish words.
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Old February 11, 2009, 12:32 AM
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Hi Rusty,

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The author of the sentence needs to work on punctuation and spelling.
Your translation is good, albeit 'spiced up'.

The sentence should read:
La verdad es que* me gusta todo, pero lo que más me apasiona es viajar o las prendas, así sean, de vestir.

Here is the translation I would give:
The truth is, I like everything; but I am most passionate about traveling or clothing.

The así sean phrase introduces de vestir, which clarifies las prendas.

*I added these so that others could make the connection between your translation and the omitted Spanish words.
How would you translate "turn ons"?

Also, the way I see that "así sean", is to mean whether. Doesn't?

I like your explanations, and they show an incredible amount of knowledge. What I would like to know is, where did you learn castellano?, and I am sure you are/were a translator or a language teacher. :-)

I am also sure that you must cringe at my lack of capitalization and accentuation in spanish... uh?
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Old February 11, 2009, 12:47 AM
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las prendas would translate turn-ons (im half spanish) & yea i agree this guy rusty really knows his stuff idk how it's almost like he's a native he almost seems to know more than natives i mean you would have to think that someone has more than a masters degree in spanish to know that much i mean someone must be @ least half way through their phd in spanish to know that much
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Old February 11, 2009, 12:53 AM
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las prendas would translate turn-ons (im half spanish) & yea i agree this guy rusty really knows his stuff idk how it's almost like he's a native he almost seems to know more than natives i mean you would have to think that someone has more than a masters degree in spanish to know that much i mean someone must be @ least half way through their phd in spanish to know that much

Well. Knowledge is knowledge. Here, there and everywhere. :-)

I like Angelica too! :-) And David!

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Old February 11, 2009, 04:59 PM
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The author of the sentence needs to work on punctuation and spelling.
Very true... and in the use of words.
The use of "las prendas" as something one would be passionate about sounds weird to me as a Mexican Spanish speaker.

It might be easier to understand: "La verdad, me gusta todo, pero lo que más me apasiona es viajar y la moda".


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Old February 11, 2009, 06:28 PM
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Old February 12, 2009, 07:44 AM
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Hi Angelica and Rusty,

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It might be easier to understand: "La verdad, me gusta todo, pero lo que más me apasiona es viajar y la moda".
Yes, I would use it like that, too.


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Oh, please. Do not worry and be . Never

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How would you translate "turn ons"?
In a sexual sense: "cosas que me excitan"
In a general sense (things I like) (slang usage): "cosas que me gustan"
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What does así sean mean?
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Old February 12, 2009, 10:31 AM
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So let them be, literally. I would interpret the phrase as albeit.
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Old February 12, 2009, 11:16 AM
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What does así sean mean?
In my opinion, it's kind of a filler word with little meaning.

las prendas así sean de vestir = the clothes, like, you know, dress clothes.
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Is así sean used often as a filler word?
Es así sean usaba con frecuencia como una muletilla?

I told a joke yesterday, albeit, not a funny one.
Conté un chiste ayer, así sean, no era gracioso.

How would I say not a funny one literally in the sentence?
Como sé dice not a funny one de una manera literal en la frase?
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Hello Guys,

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What does así sean mean?

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So let them be, literally. I would interpret the phrase as albeit.
I think, let them be, it meant literally, Dejalos (en paz). Albeit would be "Aunque"

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In my opinion, it's kind of a filler word with little meaning.

las prendas así sean de vestir = the clothes, like, you know, dress clothes.
The example would be : las prendas así sean de vestir = the clothes whether formal dressing, should be worn at all times.

Que no? :-)


Should I have used the comma after dressing?

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So let them be is only one way to translate así sean, and I didn't mean dejar en paz. Another way to translate sean is be they. Perhaps even better is 'that is' (es decir). In the case of this particular sentence, I'd have to agree with David. It's a filler.

In order to totally understand the sentence, you have to know that there is a double meaning (double entendre) for las prendas. A better translation of 'las prendas, así sean, de vestir' can't be properly done with those exact words in English because there is no double meaning. Clothing was the final meaning after the author cleared their throat (using así sean) and added the clarifying de vestir. It could almost be likened to this translation:
'... is traveling and lingerie, er, clothing.'

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So let them be is only one way to translate así sean, and I didn't mean dejar en paz. Another way to translate sean is be they. Perhaps even better is 'that is' (es decir). In the case of this particular sentence, I'd have to agree with David. It's a filler.

In order to totally understand the sentence, you have to know that there is a double meaning (double entendre) for las prendas. A better translation of 'las prendas, así sean, de vestir' can't be properly done with those exact words in English because there is no double meaning. Clothing was the final meaning after the author cleared their throat (using así sean) and added the clarifying de vestir. It could almost be likened to this translation:
'... is traveling and lingerie, er, clothing.'

You are right. :-)

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Old February 13, 2009, 10:20 AM
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"Prendas/ropa de vestir" can be understood as formal apparel, in opposition to casual style. If "de vestir" is clarified, it could mean that it's said by someone who prefers casual and sport outfits, but even finds nice the fashion of more formal clothing.

"Me apasiona la ropa, así sea de vestir" = "I'm passionate about clothing, even if it's formal wear"
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Old February 13, 2009, 10:24 AM
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Also a valid point. Gracias, Angelica.
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