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Old December 24, 2009, 05:39 AM
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Have you heard a hispanic say "hot"?

I so, the sound you heard for the "H" was hard(strong) or soft?
Actually, I wouldn't ever use "hard" or "soft" about an "h" sound. Only g's, c's, j's....... But now we know that we were all talking about different things...

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Amazing how much confusion can be produced over a simple difference in terminology.
I know, right!
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Old December 24, 2009, 10:46 AM
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Actually, I wouldn't ever use "hard" or "soft" about an "h" sound. Only g's, c's, j's....... But now we know that we were all talking about different things...



I know, right!
Difficult to convey....

I hope to have more time later on and I will post sounds...
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Old December 24, 2009, 11:07 AM
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Difficult to convey....

I hope to have more time later on and I will post sounds...
Oooh! Yes, I want to hear sounds. The listening is the main thing that is lacking from my Spanish learning! Thanks, Chileno!!
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Old December 24, 2009, 11:41 AM
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Oooh! Yes, I want to hear sounds. The listening is the main thing that is lacking from my Spanish learning! Thanks, Chileno!!
I am going to practice my best hispanic accent and I will upload it.
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Old December 24, 2009, 11:49 AM
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Maybe you can do two recordings, one like a Chilean, and one like a Uruguazhan. (Only joking!)
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Old December 24, 2009, 12:05 PM
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@Perikles: It's actually "fuerte" and "suave".

And yes, "g" in "gato" is "suave" while "girafa" is "fuerte".


The sound of "g" in "giraffe" or "gem" is not associated to any "g" in Spanish... I find it rather related to "ll" or "y"...
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@And yes, "g" in "gato" is "suave" while "girafa" is "fuerte".
So after all that:

"g" in "gato" is "suave" while "girafa" is "fuerte".
.......................... ................................
"g" in "gato" is "hard " while "girafa" is "soft ".

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Old December 24, 2009, 01:34 PM
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It's not that often that the translation has to be made through antonyms.
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Lo siento para interrumpir en el hilo , pero por lo menos mi pregunta es relacionado al tópico original

Hay una ciudad en España se llaman Zaragoza

¿Es la pronunciación (de español de España) así?

Thar-ah-ho-tha (g suave
o
Thar-ah-goh-tha (g fuerte

En otras palabras ¿cómo se pronuncia el "g" en Zaragoza.

PD. También ¿hay un nombre por "g" como (r = erre)
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Lo siento para interrumpir en el hilo , pero por lo menos mi pregunta es relacionado al tópico original

Hay una ciudad en España se llaman Zaragoza

¿Es la pronunciación (de español de España) así?

Thar-ah-ho-tha (g suave
o
Thar-ah-goh-tha (g fuerte

En otras palabras ¿cómo se pronuncia el "g" en Zaragoza.

PD. También ¿hay un nombre por "g" como (r = erre)
Thar-ah-goh-tha is ok, but "suave":

http://roble.pntic.mec.es/~msanto1/ortografia/ge.htm

El nombre de la letra g es "ge". Todas las letras tienen nombre:

a, be, ce, [che], de, e, efe, ge, hache, i, jota, ka, ele, [elle], eme, ene, eñe, o, pe, cu, erre (o ere), ese, te, u, uve, uve doble, equis, i griega (o ye), zeta.

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Old December 26, 2009, 02:51 AM
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Thar-ah-goh-tha is ok, but "suave":

http://roble.pntic.mec.es/~msanto1/ortografia/ge.htm

El nombre de la letra g es "ge". Todas las letras tienen nombre:

a, be, ce, [che], de, e, efe, ge, hache, i, jota, ka, ele, [elle], eme, ene, eñe, o, pe, cu, erre (o ere), ese, te, u, uve, uve doble, equis, i griega (o ye), zeta.
Muchísimas gracias Irma !
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Old December 26, 2009, 02:54 AM
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Old December 26, 2009, 03:02 AM
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Muchísimas gracias Irma !
Bob - have a look and listen to this clip.
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Old December 26, 2009, 03:34 AM
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Bob - have a look and listen to this clip.
This is Chilean pronunciation. Here the pronunciation in Spain. We call v and w in a different way, we say "erre" instead of "ere" and /ce/ instead of /se/ (pronunciation of "c" -ce-).
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This is Chilean pronunciation. Here the pronunciation in Spain. We call v and w in a different way, we say "erre" instead of "ere" and /ce/ instead of /se/ (pronunciation of "c" -ce-).
Pero esa es una niñita muerta de la risa que hasta se le olvidó decir la eñe.
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Pero esa es una niñita muerta de la risa que hasta se le olvidó decir la eñe.
Y es muy importante para felicitar el año nuevo (no vayas a felicitar otra cosa ). But not yet.
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Y es muy importante para felicitar el año nuevo (no vayas a felicitar otra cosa ). But not yet.
Haces que se me frunza el ceño.
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You can use the pronoun like to Gato- Cat

You say GE such as you can read this GE.

Also you can practice with Geronimo.

Germinado too.
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Haces que se me frunza el ceño.
Si quieres decir "Feliz Año Nuevo" y no puedes escribir la 'ñ', ¿qué letra usarás? ¿Y qué palabra resulta si sustiuyes la 'ñ' por la 'n'?
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Si quieres decir "Feliz Año Nuevo" y no puedes escribir la 'ñ', ¿qué letra usarás? ¿Y qué palabra resulta si sustiuyes la 'ñ' por la 'n'?
Cuando fui a Ecuador había un chico inglés en mi grupo que dijo que tenía 19 anos. No lo creí.
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