Ask a Question

(Create a thread)
Go Back   Spanish language learning forums > Teaching & Learning > Culture
Register Help/FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

¿Eres otra persona al hablar otro idioma? - Page 4

 

Questions about culture and cultural differences between countries and languages.


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #61
Old September 16, 2008, 05:59 AM
María José's Avatar
María José María José is offline
The Rebel Fairy
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Madrid
Posts: 1,765
Native Language: Spanish
María José is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by poli View Post
La verdad es que nadie tiene la imunidad contra lo cursi, y lo empalagoso, pero el conocimieno del significado de las palabras le da un pequeño inoculación o sea no 100% efectivo. Me alegro que no es 100% efectivo porque a veces las cosas cursis son divirtidas especialmente para los niños y las trufas de chocolate son agradables de ves en cuando.

Es una lástima que en inglés no hay palabras sinónimos solamente palabras
que aceracan cursi (como dijimos corny, syrupy, y cómo no dijimos Hallmark sentiment, a little too Disneyish, cloying, y unas palabras muy raras jejune y vapid que casi nadie sino catedráticos usan.
Nice post. ( I've added these smilies to add a tough touch for a change)
__________________
"When the first baby laughed for the first time, the laugh broke into a thousand pieces and they all went skipping about, and that was the beginning of fairies."
from Peter Pan by J.M.Barrie
Reply With Quote
   
Get rid of these ads by registering for a free Tomísimo account.
  #62
Old October 02, 2008, 03:28 AM
deborahj's Avatar
deborahj deborahj is offline
Ruby
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Greece, one of the ionion islands
Posts: 69
Native Language: English
deborahj is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by sosia View Post
¿Do you change your personality when you speak another language?
http://www.electronicafacil.net/cien...icle14559.html
Interesting question.

I have been told that when I speak greek, I speak louder and tend to come accross slightly aggresive, also l tend to use my hands a lot when speaking greek, where as in english l don't. ( greek people are generally quite loud, and l think it's often a case of "he who speaks loudest, shall be heard" )

So, is it the language or just the enviroment, or perhaps a bit of both.

Debbie
Reply With Quote
  #63
Old October 02, 2008, 09:09 AM
ruby's Avatar
ruby ruby is offline
Ruby
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 57
ruby is on a distinguished road
Yo mas gesticular cuando hablando en Español con mi vecino de al lado. Encogerse de hombros y mi mano señals tambien.

( I gesticulate more when I am speaking with my Spanish next door neighboroughs. Shrug my shoulders and also hand signals).

We may not speak the same language but we eventually understand each other !!

Ruby
Reply With Quote
  #64
Old March 15, 2010, 08:41 AM
explorator's Avatar
explorator explorator is offline
Pearl
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Spain
Posts: 138
Native Language: Castillan spanish
explorator is on a distinguished road
Las personas que hablan otros idiomas además de su lengua materna, no es que cambien, es que aprenden a pensar de otra manera; aprender otro idioma implica aprender otra lógica. Creo que es por eso que comienzan a comprender no sólo a las personas, sino también sus culturas y sus maneras de vivir, lo que hace más difíciles los odios viscerales que tanto nos han caracterizado en Europa. Pienso que no hay nada que una más que hablar una misma lengua y creo que tampoco hay nada que más separe que hablar lenguas diferentes.

Last edited by explorator; March 15, 2010 at 09:28 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #65
Old March 17, 2010, 01:37 AM
xchic's Avatar
xchic xchic is offline
Pearl
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Spain
Posts: 255
Native Language: English English!
xchic is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by ruby View Post
Yo mas gesticular cuando hablando en Español con mi vecino de al lado. Encogerse de hombros y mi mano señals tambien.

( I gesticulate more when I am speaking with my Spanish next door neighboroughs. Shrug my shoulders and also hand signals).

We may not speak the same language but we eventually understand each other !!

Ruby
Me too!

I wave my arms around & speak louder when I speak Spanish

I tried to sit on my hands last night when speaking Spanish & was lost for words!
Reply With Quote
  #66
Old March 17, 2010, 01:43 AM
irmamar's Avatar
irmamar irmamar is offline
Diamond
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 7,071
Native Language: Español
irmamar is on a distinguished road
I think I don't change when I'm speaking another language, not even my voice or my gestures (or maybe I do ). But when I'm watching an English program at TV I increase the TV volume.
Reply With Quote
  #67
Old March 17, 2010, 01:49 AM
xchic's Avatar
xchic xchic is offline
Pearl
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Spain
Posts: 255
Native Language: English English!
xchic is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by irmamar View Post
I don't think I change when I'm speaking another language, not even my voice or my gestures (or maybe I do ). But when I'm watching an English program at TV I increase the TV volume.
I wasn't aware that I did until my husband told me!

My daughters also speak more loudly (& swear more) when they are with Spanish friends.
Reply With Quote
  #68
Old March 17, 2010, 02:01 AM
irmamar's Avatar
irmamar irmamar is offline
Diamond
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 7,071
Native Language: Español
irmamar is on a distinguished road
In Spanish I can say "no creo que cambie" and "creo que no cambio".

Maybe somebody should tell me if I change my waves
Reply With Quote
  #69
Old March 17, 2010, 05:11 AM
Jane's Avatar
Jane Jane is offline
Emerald
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Spain
Posts: 727
Native Language: English
Jane will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by explorator View Post
Las personas que hablan otros idiomas además de su lengua materna, no es que cambien, es que aprenden a pensar de otra manera; aprender otro idioma implica aprender otra lógica. Creo que es por eso que comienzan a comprender no sólo a las personas, sino también sus culturas y sus maneras de vivir, lo que hace más difíciles los odios viscerales que tanto nos han caracterizado en Europa. Pienso que no hay nada que una más que hablar una misma lengua y creo que tampoco hay nada que más separe que hablar lenguas diferentes.
Bien dicho, Explorator. Dado mi experiencia viviendo en un país que no es mio, es cierto que entiendo mejor algunas cosas que antes criticaba, también me siento más acogida por la gente cuando hablo con ellos en su idioma. Sin embargo, siento algo de rabia cuando alguien dice que no necesita aprender inglés o peor que no le gusta inglés y eso que no trabajo con los chicos de Oxford.

Like I said earlier, learning another language is one sure way of widening our horizon which in turn helps us to be more acommodating and flexible.
__________________
Life´s Beautiful !
It gets even better!!!
Jane.

Last edited by Jane; March 17, 2010 at 05:16 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #70
Old March 17, 2010, 06:25 AM
poli's Avatar
poli poli is offline
rule 1: gravity
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In and around New York
Posts: 7,929
Native Language: English
poli will become famous soon enoughpoli will become famous soon enough
Hi Jane
Additionally in the case of studying Spanish for English speakers: studying
Spanish greatly improves our English vocabulary and it turns us all into amateur etimologists
Mi experiencia en el otro lado del mar es que hay muy pocos hispanos que
no quieren aprender el inglés evidentamente por necesidad. En España
esa misma necesidad no existe.
__________________
Me ayuda si corrige mis errores. Gracias.
Reply With Quote
  #71
Old March 17, 2010, 12:55 PM
hermit hermit is offline
Emerald
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotsburn, nova scotia
Posts: 617
Native Language: english
hermit is on a distinguished road
Ha sido mi observación que para hablar cualquiera segunda lengua hay que pensar en esa lengua, inclusive el temperamento cultural. A veces sútil, en otras ocasiones, más dramático...
__________________
"Be brief, for no discourse can please when too long."
miguel de cervantes saavedra

Last edited by hermit; March 17, 2010 at 12:57 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #72
Old March 17, 2010, 02:01 PM
NiCACHiCA's Avatar
NiCACHiCA NiCACHiCA is offline
Ruby
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 63
Native Language: English
NiCACHiCA is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to NiCACHiCA Send a message via MSN to NiCACHiCA Send a message via Yahoo to NiCACHiCA
Quote:
Originally Posted by irmamar View Post
I think I don't change when I'm speaking another language, not even my voice or my gestures (or maybe I do ). But when I'm watching an English program at TV I increase the TV volume.

I am the same way when I watch a Spanish program on TV! I imagine it's because I want to catch every word...but learning Spanish might make me lose my hearing!!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jane View Post
Bien dicho, Explorator. Dado mi experiencia viviendo en un país que no es mio, es cierto que entiendo mejor algunas cosas que antes criticaba, también me siento más acogida por la gente cuando hablo con ellos en su idioma. Sin embargo, siento algo de rabia cuando alguien dice que no necesita aprender inglés o peor que no le gusta inglés y eso que no trabajo con los chicos de Oxford.

Like I said earlier, learning another language is one sure way of widening our horizon which in turn helps us to be more acommodating and flexible.

I think I understand enough to say that I agree with you both! I lived in Nicaragua for a year and have been changed ever since. It's an amazing experience to learn a new language, but even better to live and learn a new culture, new values, etc. It opened up a new way of thinking for me as well as a new set of values that I have kept since returning to the U.S.


I'm not a completely different person when speaking Spanish than I am when speaking English (I would say I'm a little bit more outgoing in Spanish, maybe because it's new and more fun), although I would say learning Spanish has changed me as a person in general.
Reply With Quote
  #73
Old March 17, 2010, 03:22 PM
hermit hermit is offline
Emerald
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotsburn, nova scotia
Posts: 617
Native Language: english
hermit is on a distinguished road
yeah, it's a new threshold for enthusiasm...
__________________
"Be brief, for no discourse can please when too long."
miguel de cervantes saavedra
Reply With Quote
  #74
Old March 17, 2010, 05:21 PM
CrOtALiTo's Avatar
CrOtALiTo CrOtALiTo is offline
Diamond
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mérida, Yucatán
Posts: 11,686
Native Language: I can understand Spanish and English
CrOtALiTo is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Yahoo to CrOtALiTo
Quote:
Originally Posted by NiCACHiCA View Post
I am the same way when I watch a Spanish program on TV! I imagine it's because I want to catch every word...but learning Spanish might make me lose my hearing!!





I think I understand enough to say that I agree with you both! I lived in Nicaragua for a year and have been changed ever since. It's an amazing experience to learn a new language, but even better to live and learn a new culture, new values, etc. It opened up a new way of thinking for me as well as a new set of values that I have kept since returning to the U.S.


I'm not a completely different person when speaking Spanish than I am when speaking English (I would say I'm a little bit more outgoing in Spanish, maybe because it's new and more fun), although I would say learning Spanish has changed me as a person in general.
Yes I think exactly the same that you.
You don't need to change your way to be when you speak or learn any language in any country as well as you can be the same person of always.
Now I believe that yes it's important when you get more knowledge in the ambit labor, because with the new knowledge you have more change to get a truly work in the sense of the ambit professional and personal.

I want to share my own experience in the ambit professional, this language new for me of course, it has helped me that much, because since I know a little to English, I can read more information above my profession, now that the managers sees the a new opportunity in the job and my grade, although sometimes I have struggled with the language sometimes, because I don't know any word yet, but I try to do the best possible in my job, and in my hands are the solution to be someone better of course studying and studying more the language.

Now I have gone some place when the people speaks in English and really when I listen them, I become happy, because I know that I can practice with them my new knowledge, I try to speak with them in English only, although they know speak Spanish, I try do write only in English, in my case it's worst that I write in Spanish, maybe because I'm the major part of my free time and my busy time here posting with you.

Your experience is very motivate for me, because I can see that there're people who love the language and they do the same that me.

To speaks the language the more that you can do it during your whole day.
__________________
We are building the most important dare for my life and my family feature now we are installing new services in telecoms.
Reply With Quote
  #75
Old March 17, 2010, 10:09 PM
bobjenkins's Avatar
bobjenkins bobjenkins is offline
Diamond
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: España próximamente??
Posts: 2,923
Native Language: Inglés
bobjenkins is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Yahoo to bobjenkins
Quote:
Originally Posted by NiCACHiCA View Post
I am the same way when I watch a Spanish program on TV! I imagine it's because I want to catch every word...but learning Spanish might make me lose my hearing!!

Yo también !!



I think I understand enough to say that I agree with you both! I lived in Nicaragua for a year and have been changed ever since. It's an amazing experience to learn a new language, but even better to live and learn a new culture, new values, etc. It opened up a new way of thinking for me as well as a new set of values that I have kept since returning to the U.S.
Estoy de acuerdo. El aprendizaje del español , es una gran felicidad para mi
__________________
"There´s always money in the banana stand michael!"
--george bluthe sir
Reply With Quote
  #76
Old March 29, 2010, 10:38 AM
Villa's Avatar
Villa Villa is offline
Emerald
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Corona, California
Posts: 879
Native Language: inglés y español).
Villa is on a distinguished road
This is a great question and a great topic.

"Ha sido mi observación que para hablar cualquiera segunda lengua hay que pensar en esa lengua, inclusive el temperamento cultural. A veces sútil, en otras ocasiones, más dramático..." Es verdad. Soy de acuerdo Hermit.
__________________

La respuesta es sì y no para mi. I've been speaking Spanish for casi 40 años and have become mexicanizado and hispanizado. I think and see things like a Mexican and or a Hispanic. Also I speak Italian so have that influence too but then again Italians and Hispanics have a very similar culture.

I think it's all about being bilingual and bicultural and being able to operate in both or more languages and cultures as much like a native speaker as possible.

But when all is said and done I just that simple country boy I always was. You can take the boy out of the country but you can't take the country out of the boy.

Last edited by Villa; March 29, 2010 at 10:56 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #77
Old March 29, 2010, 10:53 AM
María José's Avatar
María José María José is offline
The Rebel Fairy
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Madrid
Posts: 1,765
Native Language: Spanish
María José is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Villa View Post
This is a great question and a great topic.

La respuesta es sì y no para mi. I've been speaking Spanish for casi 40 años and have become mexicanizado and hispanizado. I think and see things like a Mexican and or a Hispanic. Also I speak Italian so have that influence too but then again Italians and Hispanics have a very similar culture.

I think it's all about being bilingual and bicultural and being able to operate in both or more languages and cultures as much like a native speaker as possible.

But when all is said and done I just that simple country boy I always was. You can take the boy out of the country but you can't take the country out of the boy.
You can say that again! Lovely post.
__________________
"When the first baby laughed for the first time, the laugh broke into a thousand pieces and they all went skipping about, and that was the beginning of fairies."
from Peter Pan by J.M.Barrie
Reply With Quote
  #78
Old March 29, 2010, 11:03 AM
Villa's Avatar
Villa Villa is offline
Emerald
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Corona, California
Posts: 879
Native Language: inglés y español).
Villa is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by María José View Post
You can say that again! Lovely post.
Gracias Marìa Josè.

Last edited by Rusty; March 29, 2010 at 02:53 PM. Reason: removed personal invitation
Reply With Quote
  #79
Old April 20, 2010, 01:02 AM
IANINA IANINA is offline
Opal
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ISRAEL
Posts: 1
IANINA is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to IANINA
Hola gente linda

LEI EL FORUM Y ME GUSTO AL IDEA DE HABLAR DEL TEMA
YO SOY ARGENTINA QUE VIVE EN ISRAEL HACE 7 ANIOS Y HABLO EN OTRO IDIOMA QUE ES EL HEBREO.
YO SIENTO QUE ME CAMBIO LA PERSONALIDAD EL IDIOMA EXISTEN CODIGOS, MANERAS DE EXPRESION, HUMOR EN UN IDIOMA QUE SON DIFICILES DE ELIMINAR CUANDO UNO ESTA VIVINE EN OTRO IDIOMA Y PARA QUE LA GENTE NOS ENTIENDA Y NOSOTROS NOS PODAMOS ADAPTAR A ELLOS NOS CAMBIA LA PERSONALIDAD
EN UNA DE LAS COSAS QUE SUFRO HOY DIA Y NOSE COMO PODER VOLVER A SER YO EN UN PAIS QEU SE HABLA Y TRASMITE EN OTRO IDIOMA Y CULTURA
GRACIAS
IANINIA
Reply With Quote
  #80
Old April 20, 2010, 11:25 AM
Jessica's Avatar
Jessica Jessica is offline
...
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: PA
Posts: 8,187
Native Language: English, Chinese
Jessica is on a distinguished road
I speak Chinese but not that often. I use Chinese for lots of Chinese dishes that I do not know the English translation (or I rather use the Chinese name)
Reply With Quote
Reply

 

Link to this thread
URL: 
HTML Link: 
BB Code: 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Site Rules

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[Other] El noruego es el idioma más fácil de aprender Tomisimo Other Languages 24 February 21, 2009 08:10 AM
Ser pelota/ qué pelota eres Jane Idioms & Sayings 15 April 16, 2008 06:06 PM
Quisiera hablar español otra vez carlita Practice & Homework 5 July 17, 2006 01:27 PM
Otra pregunta Inquirer Vocabulary 4 May 21, 2006 02:57 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:55 AM.

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

X