No entiendo muy bien el significado de "hillbillies"

[powerchisper]

Hello friends :

I've heard this word several times lately .
If I look in the dictionary , I find that it may have a pejorative meaning.

Does it have anything to do with the Spanish word "paleto" ?

Any examples are welcome

Thanks !

[poli]

Originally Posted by powerchisper

Hello friends :

I've heard this word several times lately .
If I look in the dictionary , I find that it may have a pejorative meaning.

Does it have anything to do with the Spanish word "paleto" ?

Any examples are welcome

Thanks !

Sí tiene algo de ver con paleto porque se refiere a gente campestre que viven en las colinas y lejos de la ciudad más sofisticada, pero según lo que entiendo la palabra paleto es siempre derogotorio, y de vez en cuando hillbilly no es. Hay gente le le encanta la música hillbilly (música country western) por ejemplo.

[Glen]

Yes, it has a pejorative meaning for those who happen to live in areas where there are mountains (hills) since - I suspect - "billy" refers to a goat. Two corresponding terms I can think of are "jíbaro" and "maicero."

[JPablo]

En el Cono Sur también se les llama "pajueranos" (de la pronunciación rústica o palurda de "pa ajuera")

Rústico, paleto, palurdo... son equivalente más o menos peyorativos.

Cuando hablamos de "hillbilly music" = música country, no tiene ningún sentido derogatorio, que yo sepa, como dice Poli...

A mí esa música me entanta... como también me gusta el campo... y sus aromas (aunque a veces sean de boñiga de vaca...)

[chileno]

Originally Posted by JPablo

En el Cono Sur también se les llama "pajueranos" (de la pronunciación rústica o palurda de "pa ajuera")

En que parte del cono sur?

En Chile se les llama huaso o bien en chilensis "guaso"

[JPablo]

Argentina, (Bolivia), Uruguay, Paraguay...

No había oído lo de "guaso"...

Moliner da muchos sinónimos:

Cateto, churro, cuico, forano, guanaco, isidro, lugareño, meleno, pajuerano, palurdo, páparo, patán, payo, provinciano, pueblerino.

[chileno]

Originally Posted by JPablo

Argentina, (Bolivia), Uruguay, Paraguay...

No había oído lo de "guaso"...

Moliner da muchos sinónimos:

Cateto, churro, cuico, forano, guanaco, isidro, lugareño, meleno, pajuerano, palurdo, páparo, patán, payo, provinciano, pueblerino.

Pa' que veai. Chileno nomá', poh.

[poli]

Another term I have heard is corroncho.

Although hillbilly can be used to mean paleto, better terms in English are hick, rube, yuck yuck, green (if they are from foreign countries). The word green in this form is not derogatory but the other terms should be used with caution.

[chileno]

Never heard of any of those except paleto and palurdo, and in English I recognize hillbilly and hick.

[powerchisper]

Thank you very much for the explanation.

These are delicate words . As you said , in Spanish , "paleto" has always a pejorative meaning.I did'nt know about that kind of music , i'll try to find out later !

Some people from England in my workplace tell me it happens the same to them when it comes to use such words as "cojones" , as it may have both a good or bad meaning.

This also happens to me with the " bad ass" thing.

[nativespanish]

Originally Posted by poli

Sí tiene algo de ver con paleto porque se refiere a gente campestre que viven en las colinas y lejos de la ciudad más sofisticada, pero según lo que entiendo la palabra paleto es siempre derogotorio, y de vez en cuando hillbilly no es. Hay gente le le encanta la música hillbilly (música country western) por ejemplo.

Sí (if you write or say "SÏ" not "SI" like an affirmation you have to put a comma behind: Sí, tiene que ver...)tiene algo de ver con paleto porque se refiere a gente campestre que viven en las colinas y lejos de la ciudad más sofisticada, pero según lo que entiendo la palabra paleto es siempre derogotorio????is it a new word?, it doesn´t exist!. Dou you mean peyorativo ? y de vez en cuando hillbilly no lo es. Hay gente que le encanta la música hillbilly (música country western) , por ejemplo

[Premium]

Originally Posted by nativespanish

derogotorio????is it a new word?, it doesn´t exist!. Dou you mean [COLOR=green]peyorativo ?

What about "derogatorio"?

[poli]

That's right peyorativo or despectivo are words I should have used. While writing derogatorio I was thinking that perhaps the word was a false congate, but I never checks. Thanks.

[nativespanish]

"derogatorio" doesn´t exist, I don´t know if you want to say PEYORATIVO

peyorativo=insulto

For example: the word pig (in spanish "CERDO" is a noun, but if you use like an adjective , for example "X is a pig" has a complete different meaning. It is an insult. So it´s "peyorativo"

Another example: some centuries ago we used to call people from north of Africa "moro". It´s a word acceppted by the Royal Academy of the Spanish language (refers to people who lives in the north of Africa), but.......if you meet with someone from Morocco and say "hey, you, moro!" it´s an insult, it´s peyorativo.

peyorativo: words you say with an insulting intention

[Premium]

Originally Posted by nativespanish

"derogatorio" doesn´t exist, I don´t know if you want to say PEYORATIVO

I didn't know what "peyorativo" means, but "derogatorio" exists according to my dictionary.

[nativespanish]

Originally Posted by Premium

I didn't know what "peyorativo" means, but "derogatorio" exists according to my dictionary.

ok, "derogatorio" exists but "derogotorio" doesn´t. I´m sorry, only one letter makes I don´t understand the word.

Derogatorio means...to abrogate, to revoke, to repeal (for example a law). The adjective is "derogatorio", the verb is "derogar"

For example:

El parlamento derogó la ley de 1975

Do you understand?

[Premium]

Originally Posted by nativespanish

ok, "derogatorio" exists but "derogotorio" doesn´t. I´m sorry, only one letter makes I don´t understand the word.

Derogatorio means...to abrogate, to revoke, to repeal (for example a law). The adjective is "derogatorio", the verb is "derogar"

For example:

El parlamento derogó la ley de 1975

Do you understand?

Of course i do. It just confused me that you said it doesn't exist. Though, i'd barely use it in German.

[Glen]

Powerchisper, you said any examples are welcome so here's one I just heard.

If there is such a word as "reintarnation" it could mean "coming back to life as a hillbilly" since they are often stereotyped as saying "tarnation!" as a euphemism for "damnation (Hell)." For example, "What in tarnation is that?"

Sorry, but you asked for any examples

[deandddd]

In Puerto Rico, they say "jíbaro".

I found a link and at the bottom of the page there is a country-by-country analysis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%ADbaro

Dean