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Old April 21, 2010, 10:24 PM
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Like always/ever

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-Why "Like always" is right and "Like ever" no? with "as" instead of "like" it's the same no?

-"We was attacked" Why "was" instead of "were? (William Golding's book)

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Hello.

-Why "Like always" is right and "Like ever" no? with "as" instead of "like" it's the same no?

-"We was attacked" Why "was" instead of "were? (William Golding's book)

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Because "ever" is used with "as", like this:

"as ever"
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Old April 22, 2010, 12:16 AM
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-"We was attacked" Why "was" instead of "were? (William Golding's book)
Vernacular - note that it's a boy speaking rather than the narrator. Some people (and I couldn't tell you which factors are relevant) decline the past of "to be" entirely with "was". This is also popular among writers of historical novels, although I couldn't tell you how accurate it is there.

The British National Corpus reports 428 instances of "we was" vs 14300 of the standard "we were".
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In common language the forms of verb to be are often used in ways you will not find in grammar books. Some Americans (African Americans in particular) often omit the verb to be altogether, because you can be clearly understood without using the verb at all. Example: Where she at?

It's important to be aware of these alternate ways of speaking but as a learner; it's much more important to speak English in the more official (precscriptive) way.
Like aways sounds less formal than as ever. The use of like and as is often controversial among people teaching grammar because the language is changing. It's not a bad idea however to remember that as is usually a conjunction and like
is traditionally a preposition.
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Thanks for the answers, it's clear now.
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