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Así pues, la expresión es harto conocida y usada en las Españas. Moliner la define así:
Poner una [buena] pica en Flandes. Conseguir algo provechoso y difícil de conseguir: ‘Si se sostiene en estas circunstancias habrá puesto una pica en Flandes’. Curiosamente, el DRAE da algunas expresiones más que yo desconocía: (el símbolo ~ representa la palabra "pica" aquí.) pasar por las ~s. 1. loc. verb. Pasar muchos trabajos e incomodidades. poder pasar por las ~s de Flandes algo. 1. loc. verb. Tener toda su perfección y poder pasar por cualquier censura y vencer toda dificultad. poner una ~ en Flandes. 1. loc. verb. coloq. Ser mucha la dificultad para conseguir algo. saltar por las ~s de Flandes. 1. loc. verb. coloq. Atropellar por cualesquiera respetos o inconvenientes.
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@Perikles: I think Irma and Pablo will have much more to say on that expression, but it's understood as the lands and peoples in that territory.
I haven't heard that plural used about any other country (las Alemanias, las Inglaterras, los Méxicos...) though.
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In Spain, people would go to "las Américas" or "las Indias Occidentales"...
You may google "las Españas" and find many, many usages... "Rey de las Españas" "héroe de las Españas" "conquistador de las Españas". There are several aspects, one is every kingdom of the peninsula, but then, all the "colonies" were referred as such... Another usage of the plural can be read in Machado (and many others) "Españolito que vienes al mundo, te guarde Dios: una de las dos Españas ha de helarte el corazón". Here is one link as an example of this second sense (I haven't read it myself yet, but at a glance seems promising...) http://www.letraslibres.com/index.php?art=14595 For the first, there are many, http://www.filosofia.org/hem/dep/rde/index.htm
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Ah, sí, ¡la famosa Guerra de las Galias!
-Muchas Galias. -De Nadia.
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As far as I know, "las Españas" are known all the territories which belonged to Spain, even before 1492. Spain was divided into various kingdoms from the begining of its History. After Muslim domination, "las españas" were the Christian kingdoms reconquered to the Muslims.
All the kings and queens who had kingdoms in Spain in the Middle Ages (Castilla, León, Aragón, etc.) recognised that their kingdoms belonged to Spain. So, they called their kingdoms "las Españas". Los Reyes Católicos, who joined Castilla to Aragón, were already called "Reyes de España", but also "Reyes de las Españas". The Spanish Constitution of 1812 also talks about "las Españas". Until nineteenth century Spanish coins used to have the words "Hispaniarum Rex". I hope it's clearer now. ![]() ![]() |
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