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I think writing a language is more difficult


Liquinn3 June 07, 2013 07:41 AM

I think writing a language is more difficult
 
Creo que escribir un idioma es más difícil.
Creo que escritura un idioma es más difícil.

What is correct? Thanks.

chileno June 07, 2013 08:33 AM

None of the two, and I couldn't agree more with you. It is difficult to write a language you don't know. You can copy it, but you just cannot think of it as a native from the get go.

wrholt June 07, 2013 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquinn3 (Post 138946)
Creo que escribir un idioma es más difícil.:good:
Creo que escritura un idioma es más difícil.:bad:

What is correct? Thanks.

The subject is the noun phrase "escribir un idioma" = "writing a language OR to write a language". It consists of the infinitive "escribir" plus its direct object "un idioma". In Spanish the only form of a verb that can function as a noun is the infinitive. (English is different, we can use either "to+[base form]" (what some call the full infinitive) or the "-ing" form (what some come the gerund).

"Escritura un idioma" is nonsense. "Escritura" is a noun, and nouns cannot have direct objects.

chileno June 07, 2013 08:36 AM

Wrholt, why is the first one correct?

Why do you think reading and writing any language is difficult?

wrholt June 07, 2013 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chileno (Post 138952)
Wrholt, why is the first one correct?

Why do you think reading and writing any language is difficult?

I interpreted the OP as asking for opinions on the structure of the two sentences; of the two, I find that the structure of the first one is correct and the structure of the second one is not correct. I did not intend to comment at all about the underlying meaning of either sentence.

chileno June 07, 2013 03:24 PM

hmmm. I thought the gist of it was in the subject....

JPablo June 26, 2013 08:42 PM

Creo que escribir un idioma es más difícil... que leerlo. :good:

The first is not "incorrect", but it seems to need a second "item" to compare to...

One translate or talks... or writes... to communicate. And if we can communicate constructive concepts, we can do something...

chileno June 26, 2013 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPablo (Post 139777)
Creo que escribir un idioma es más difícil... que leerlo. :good:

The first is not "incorrect", but it seems to need a second "item" to compare to...

One translate or talks... or writes... to communicate. And if we can communicate constructive concepts, we can do something...

Ell asunto es este, según yo creo.


Hacía que un etíope escribiera su nombre en Amharic, lo hacía y después yo lo escribía como él, pero un poco "raro" por no estar acostumbrado, pero el tipo me quedaba mirando maravillado y soriendo me preguntaba a través del intérprete si yo sabía amharic, y yo le decía que no, que yo podía hacer eso porque yo sabía leer y escribir en mi propio idioma.


Más raro todavía. Gente mexicana venían a mis clases porque sabían leer y hablar inglés, pero no sabían escribirlo!!!!!!?? :thinking: :confused:

:D

Ves el problemita de esa gente?

Sabiendo leer y escribir en castellano. :rolleyes:

JPablo June 26, 2013 09:31 PM

En España, Forges diría: ¡País! :rolleyes: :D

chileno June 26, 2013 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPablo (Post 139780)
En España, Forges diría: ¡País! :rolleyes: :D

Así que, en que quedamos, están correctas las preguntas originales? ;)

JPablo June 27, 2013 12:51 AM

Bueno, viendo que su entrada original era "I think writing a language is more difficult" entonces, siendo un pensamiento original "inacabado", supongo que se puede dar por "buena" la versión marcada con la "palomita"...

chileno June 27, 2013 05:44 AM

Good enough.
:)


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