Spanish language learning forums

Spanish language learning forums (https://forums.tomisimo.org/index.php)
-   Vocabulary (https://forums.tomisimo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=18)
-   -   Shall (https://forums.tomisimo.org/showthread.php?t=3834)

Shall


Jane May 06, 2009 05:45 AM

Shall
 
SHALL
How can this word be translated in spanish? :banghead:

irmamar May 06, 2009 05:48 AM

Good question, I'd like to know the answer, too.

Ambarina May 06, 2009 06:12 AM

It's the same as will in Spanish. i.e. I shall/will do it = Lo haré.

The difference is the use made in English between Shall and Will whether it's a statement of fact or whether it's a command or strong assertion.
I will be in London next week is a statement of fact.
I shall be in London next week is a strong assertion.
The verb in Spanish would be translated in the same way in both cases "Estaré en Londres la próxima semana". To make the strong assertion Spanish has to add something like: "Claro que estaré en Londres la próxima semana.

When you're offering to do something in English you use Shall, i.e. Shall I help you with that? = ¿Le ayudo con eso? Shall I call a taxi? = ¿Llamo a un taxi?

I don't know if I've completely covered the subject but that's what I can think of at the moment.:)

poli May 06, 2009 06:21 AM

In addition, you will not hear many Americans using shall. Everyone will understand you, but it is much more commonly used in Britain.

Jane May 06, 2009 06:30 AM

Thanks Ambrina and Poli.
So, there´s no one word translation for `shall´?
What about should? I gather this translates to deber... or is there any other explanation for it.

chileno May 06, 2009 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jane (Post 34375)
SHALL
How can this word be translated in spanish? :banghead:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ambarina (Post 34380)
It's the same as will in Spanish. i.e. I shall/will do it = Lo haré.

The difference is the use made in English between Shall and Will whether it's a statement of fact or whether it's a command or strong assertion.
I will be in London next week is a statement of fact.
I shall be in London next week is a strong assertion.
The verb in Spanish would be translated in the same way in both cases "Estaré en Londres la próxima semana". To make the strong assertion Spanish has to add something like: "Claro que estaré en Londres la próxima semana.

When you're offering to do something in English you use Shall, i.e. Shall I help you with that? = ¿Le ayudo con eso? Shall I call a taxi? = ¿Llamo a un taxi?

I don't know if I've completely covered the subject but that's what I can think of at the moment.:)


Correcto. However, in Spanish I always translate it as "deber"

"Estaré en Londres la próxima semana"

and

"Deberé estar en Londres la próxima semana"


I shall be back. (guess who?) :-)

poli May 06, 2009 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jane (Post 34383)
Thanks Ambrina and Poli.
So, there´s no one word translation for `shall´?
What about should? I gather this translates to deber... or is there any other explanation for it.

you can use ir a-(voy a listarme para el viaje-- maybe?)

Ambarina May 06, 2009 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poli (Post 34403)
you can use ir a-(voy a listarme para el viaje-- maybe?)

Listarme?:confused:

AngelicaDeAlquezar May 06, 2009 08:09 AM

@Poli: maybe you mean "alistarme" (get ready) ?


@Jane: there are no exact word-translations for those verbs, because they imply a verbal tense, so it's rather a whole conjugation that gives the idea in Spanish.

irmamar May 06, 2009 10:17 AM

I was interested in this word because once I had to translate into Spanish some Shakespeare's verses from a sonnet which began with "Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?" (I still remember...). I wanted to give it some look of duty, but my teacher wanted this sentence in future tense.

poli May 06, 2009 11:55 AM

Poetry is often open to interpretation. I personally would use "can I compare you.." or "may I"to translate it.
You know that Shakespeare's English is about 500 years old, but even in contemporary English "shall" may be used to mean a more forceful "may"

CrOtALiTo May 07, 2009 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jane (Post 34375)
SHALL
How can this word be translated in spanish? :banghead:

I learnt before that the word Shall meaning Deberia.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:25 PM.

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.