Uvular trill in Spanish?

[Rusty]

@SPX: I think you'd like living in Costa Rica. They don't roll the 'r' there.

[SPX]

Yeah, I've heard that.

I wonder why that is. Seems strange when all their surrounding neighbors do.

[poli]

Originally Posted by Luna Azul

No problem. A foreign accent can be very charming and attractive... why try to change it?



Oh yes, they do. Especially the French in my opinion. They also have problems pronouncing the Spanish "J".

I think the French 'r' is pretty close to the Spanish 'j'.

[Luna Azul]

Originally Posted by poli

I think the French 'r' is pretty close to the Spanish 'j'.

Not really, the French "r" is voiced whereas the Spanish "j" is voiceless. But you'd think that the French could just try to pronounce their "r" without making a sound and that way they would be able to pronounce the Spanish "j". Apparently they haven't thought of that..

[poli]

Originally Posted by Luna Azul

Not really, the French "r" is voiced whereas the Spanish "j" is voiceless. But you'd think that the French could just try to pronounce their "r" without making a sound and that way they would be able to pronounce the Spanish "j". Apparently they haven't thought of that..

You think so? Je ne regrete rien. That first 'r' sounds like a jota to me.--pardon me, I know it's not polite to spit in public.

[Luna Azul]

Originally Posted by poli

You think so? Je ne regrete rien. That first 'r' sounds like a jota to me.--pardon me, I know it's not polite to spit in public.

Not in my French.. that "r" is voiced.

Don't worry.. nobody saw you..

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by Luna Azul

No problem. A foreign accent can be very charming and attractive... why try to change it? .

Thanks.

Originally Posted by poli

You think so? Je ne regrete rien. That first 'r' sounds like a jota to me.--pardon me, I know it's not polite to spit in public.

Originally Posted by Luna Azul

Not in my French.. that "r" is voiced.

Poli - where do you hear your French?

[Elaina]

With all that said....I love a man with a foreign accent....

[Luna Azul]

Originally Posted by Perikles

Thanks.

Poli - where do you hear your French?

Aah.. Mme Edith Piaf. The greatest.

Originally Posted by Elaina
With all that said....I love a man with a foreign accent....

It depends on the man.. Just imagine a fat, short man with big glasses, long dirty hair, a few teeth missing and smelling of..... garlic...with a spectacular French accent..

[Elaina]

I can sure say there is nothing wrong with your imagination!! A little twisted, though!

But we're all human beings ..... even so....there must be something nice about a person.....no matter how that person looks....

I'm rather thinking of someone that is not too terribly bad-looking, dark hair, dark eyes, who likes to brush their teeth and comb their hair...

[Luna Azul]

Originally Posted by Elaina

I can sure say there is nothing wrong with your imagination!! A little twisted, though!

But we're all human beings ..... even so....there must be something nice about a person.....no matter how that person looks....

I'm rather thinking of someone that is not too terribly bad-looking, dark hair, dark eyes, who likes to brush their teeth and comb their hair...

Ha ha.. My imagination played a little role here, but I've actually seen that person or someone very similar, believe me.. yuck. The only difference is, he didn't have a lovely French accent.. he had a horrible Italian accent.

I'm not saying Italian accent is bad, I love the Italian language. But the way this person spoke English was almost offensive

Yep, there must have been something nice about him... he and his wife had 7 children and she was pregnant!!

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by Luna Azul

Yep, there must have been something nice about him... he and his wife had 7 children and she was pregnant!!

Perhaps he had a really really impressive uvular trill.

(Just trying to bring back to topic. )

[Luna Azul]

Originally Posted by Perikles

Perhaps he had a really really impressive uvular trill.

(Just trying to bring back to topic. )

[SPX]

Originally Posted by Elaina

But we're all human beings ..... even so....there must be something nice about a person.....no matter how that person looks....

You are clearly a very kind soul.

I wonder if native Spanish speakers ever think an America accent is sexy.

[poli]

Originally Posted by Perikles

Thanks.





Poli - where do you hear your French?

Monsieur Perikles the last time I checked most francophones don't pronounce their r's as aggressively as Piaf did. It is true that the French
r tends to be voiced and the Spanish j isn't, but they're related like the English d and the English t.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by poli

Monsieur Perikles the last time I checked most francophones don't pronounce their r's as aggressively as Piaf did.

That's interesting, because I would have said her voice was more or less typical for French people I have met. I wonder whether this is an issue of dialect. I shall have to consult my daughter-in-law: she speaks rather like that, so maybe I'm biased.

[Caballero]

Originally Posted by Rusty

@SPX: I think you'd like living in Costa Rica. They don't roll the 'r' there.

Yeah, but then you'd have to get everything else right about the accent, otherwise the person would still sound like they were from the US, and not like they were from Costa Rica. Anyway, one use of the uvular r, is if you can fake a French accent in general on your Spanish, and if you go somewhere when they automatically switch to English upon hearing that the person is an Anglophone, being able to fake a French accent on Spanish would be quite useful, as you could pretend you were from Québec or France and couldn't speak any English, so they'd have to communicate with you only in Spanish.