Are you a Catholic or a Christian?

[Villa]

Una pregunta tonta que la gente le pregunta mucho en los EE.UU. es;
¿Es/eres usted católico o cristiano? La pregunta debería ser, ¿Eres/es usted católico o protestante? Asi de simple.
Hace un tiempo atrás, una joven entre viente y treinta años me ha preguntado: ¿Eres católico o christiano? Entonces le explique con mucha detalle la historia de la religión cristiana y le explique con lujo de detalle como la religión cristiana se divide en tres partes principales. Dejé muy claro para ella que los católicos son cristianos. Los católicos creen en
Jesucristo. Creen que Jesús es el Hijo de Dios y Dios mismo. Son los católicos muslems o judios? No, son cristianos .
De todos modos el colmo es que después de explicar y explicar todo esto mejor que bien esta chica me dijo: "Todo esto es muy interesante, pero todavía quiere saber si usted es catolico o christiano".

El Cristianismo se puede dividir en tres grandes grupos: La Iglesia Católica, la Iglesia Ortodoxa Oriental
y las distintas denominaciones del protestantismo. Los católicos romanos y ortodoxos orientales patriarcados
divididos entre sí en el cisma del siglo 11, y el protestantismo llegó a existir durante la Reforma del siglo 16,
la división de la Iglesia Católica Romana. No me importa si crees en Dios o no los católicos son parte de la reglion
cristiana. Los católicos son cristianos pues. Podría pensar que son malos cristianos los catolicos, se puede pensar
que en realidad no son cristianos o lo que sea, pero los católicos pertenesan a la religion Christiana.

Asi que, es usted catolico o christiano?
Has this ever happended to you?

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by Villa

Has this ever happended to you?

No, but I remember David Beckham, when asked about their first child, said "We haven't yet decided which religion he is going to be chistened into".

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Originally Posted by perikles

no, but i remember david beckham, when asked about their first child, said "we haven't yet decided which religion he is going to be chistened into". :d:d

[poli]

Debe saber que es típico de las religiones diferenciarse a otras religiones. En este forma de pensamiento tener una religion específica, descalifica las otras religiones. Por ejemplo un evangélico puede decir que un católico no es cristiano y por eso probablamente va infierno cuando muere. Un shii puede decir que un sunni no es islamo y no merece vivir.

Con esto en la mente es importante tener un sentido de humor. Agradesco a Perikles (y Beckham) por su respuesto más cómico..

[explorator]

Es una buena aclaración Villa. El otro día me sorprendí mucho mientras leía los comentarios llenos de prejuicios y desconocimiento, que miembros de distintos credos protestantes hacían de un reportaje sobre el Vaticano. Comprendí, el enorme grado de enemistad que ha llegado a haber entre Catolicismo y Protestantismo en los países de cultura anglosajona. El uso de la expresión ¿Es usted Católico o Cristiano? implica desde el punto de vista psicosocial la ampliación del grado de diferencia entre Católicos y Protestantes, puesto que es obvio que denota el deseo de excluir del Cristianismo a la religión Católica.
Personalmente considero de enorme importancia este fenómeno en relación al concepto que de lo hispano se tiene en el mundo anglosajón, puesto que durante siglos, británicos y españoles se enfrentaron utilizando la defensa de su fe como principal argumento.
No obstante, hace ya unos años también me sorprendió el comentario de un joven profesor británico, quién ante nuestra conceptualización del mundo cristiano dividido entre Católicos y Protestantes, decía que los Anglicanos no eran en absoluto protestantes, simplemente no eran Católicos.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by explorator

No obstante, hace ya unos años también me sorprendió el comentario de un joven profesor británico, quién ante nuestra conceptualización del mundo cristiano dividido entre Católicos y Protestantes, decía que los Anglicanos no eran en absoluto protestantes, simplemente no eran Católicos.

I lived in Germany for some years and had huge problems whenever I had to complete some application form, especially once when marrying a Catholic girl. Because every form had a field for religion, which was either Catholic or Protestant, and there was no third choice. Your were not allowed to be an atheist or Muslim.

Yet the Church of England (from wiki)

... developed the understanding that the church was to be both Catholic and Reformed:

• Catholic in that it views itself as a part of the universal church of Jesus Christ in unbroken continuity with the early apostolic church. This is expressed in its emphasis on the teachings of the early Church Fathers, as formalised in the Apostles', Nicene, and Athanasian creeds.[7]
• Reformed in that it has been shaped by some of the doctrinal principles of the 16th century Protestant Reformation, in particular in the Thirty-Nine Articles and the Book of Common Prayer.[7]

I had huge problems trying to explain this to the local German priest where I was getting married. He wanted proof that I had at least been baptized as something. I had indeed been baptized, but had no proof because the church had been flattened by a German bomb a day after the event, so there were no records. He failed to see the funny side.

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Originally Posted by Perikles

He failed to see the funny side.

German humor.

[explorator]

Even we the Spaniards have to admit that the British sense of humor is much better than the German one.

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Originally Posted by explorator

Even we the Spaniards have to admit that the British sense of humor is much better than the German one.

What about the Austrian humor? Viennese are commonly pictured as desperate and blunt, something I wouldn't deny.
Austrians have much less humor than Germans, trust me on this one. Honestly though, I find the German humor better than the British one, they have some great comedians.

[explorator]

It is just my opinion, but probably the best sense of humor in the entire Word is the British sense of humor. The Monty Python, Leonard Rositer, Rowan Adkinson, Peter Sellers, Jeremy Clarkson ….

[Sancho Panther]

Jeremy Clarkson isn't a comedian - he's an idiot. Very, very unfashionable and much-criticised in Britain now for his anachronistic, misogynist, racist, quasi-fascist and self-centred views.

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Originally Posted by Sancho Panther

Jeremy Clarkson isn't a comedian - he's an idiot. Very, very unfashionable and much-criticised in Britain now for his anachronistic, misogynist, racist, quasi-fascist and self-centred views.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...t-remarks.html

Harsh..

[Sancho Panther]

Probably his worst gaffe was saying on live tv that striking London Underground workers should be taken and shot dead - in front of their own children! What a tw*t!

He had to back-pedal on that one - ¡en seguida!

[Premium]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/cele...on-gaffes.html

I don't know why they were striking but to execute them in front of their families.. what a sick mind.

[Sancho Panther]

He works for the BBC, the most staid and conservative of the main channels who normally avoid controversial presenters. But his "Top Gear" motoring magazine gets good viewing figures so he's kept on.

I suppose he courts controversy, going along with the famous quotation (can't remember the attribution!) that "There's no such thing as bad publicity - as long as they get your name right!".

His outspoken mouthiness is not to my liking though.

[pjt33]

Originally Posted by Villa

Una pregunta tonta que la gente le pregunta mucho en los EE.UU. es;
¿Es/eres usted católico o cristiano? La pregunta debería ser, ¿Eres/es usted católico o protestante? Asi de simple.

Está al revés en España, pues aquí cristiano significa católico.

[Villa]

Originally Posted by Perikles

No, but I remember David Beckham, when asked about their first child, said "We haven't yet decided which religion he is going to be chistened into".

jajajajajajajaja...right, there is only the Christian religion he could be chistened into.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by Sancho Panther

Jeremy Clarkson isn't a comedian - he's an idiot..

Maybe, but he has made himself very rich by being an idiot, so there must be many more idiots out there who have supported him.