Pronunciation of Spanish "g"

[laepelba]

So do you have an example of the "other" t sound?

[chileno]

I am talking about your sounds of T's, right?


"Later" is pronounced "slowly" or "fast", two sounds there, the sound of the T is soft or hard or whatever is it that you denominate that sound. Whereas the T pronounced faster it sounds like a "fast" D also.

hmmm i I feel a Wav coming up....

[laepelba]

Looking forward to it....... I know that there's a connection between the pronunciation of D and T......

[chileno]

Originally Posted by laepelba

Looking forward to it....... I know that there's a connection between the pronunciation of D and T......

I've been talking about English pronunciation all along... My point of view, anyway. :-)

[laepelba]

Right - I know. But I pronounce English the way I do. I don't think about it. If you're saying there are two different pronunciations of T, I don't really know quite what you're referring to...........

[chileno]

Originally Posted by laepelba

Right - I know. But I pronounce English the way I do. I don't think about it. If you're saying there are two different pronunciations of T, I don't really know quite what you're referring to...........

Ah, ok. I'll have to upload this wav and see what happens.

[Rusty]

He's talking about the way we say 'better' when we're talking naturally and how we say it slowly to someone who may be learning the word. We naturally say something very close to the Spanish clipped 'r' sound. When we slow down, though, we pronounce the 't'. There's quite a difference between the two sounds.

[chileno]

Originally Posted by Rusty

He's talking about the way we say 'better' when we're talking naturally and how we say it slowly to someone who may be learning the word. We naturally say something very close to the Spanish clipped 'r' sound. When we slow down, though, we pronounce the 't'. There's quite a difference between the two sounds.

Thank you Rusty.

Now, the following links are good for getting a better grasp at pronunciation.

The last link is excellent, because it is explained by a an English native, and I am guessing here, but his first language was Spanish. :-)

[laepelba]

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by Rusty

He's talking about the way we say 'better' when we're talking naturally and how we say it slowly to someone who may be learning the word. We naturally say something very close to the Spanish clipped 'r' sound. When we slow down, though, we pronounce the 't'. There's quite a difference between the two sounds.

This is not the case for BrE, the 't' is always hard. Do you think there is a possibility that the difference in these sounds is because the USA has been influenced in the past by Spanish pronunciation?

[irmamar]

Todos sesean, nadie pronuncia c/z como /θ/.

[pjt33]

Originally Posted by chileno

Both words, if pronounced correctly, it should be with a "soft" T. However, if "glottal" is pronounced quickly, then it becomes "glodal" in English.

In some accents (e.g. Sarf London, innit) it becomes gloh-al with a glottal stop. I can't see "glodal" occurring with a SE English accent, although I can see it with some US and Australian accents.

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[chileno]

Originally Posted by Perikles

This is not the case for BrE, the 't' is always hard. Do you think there is a possibility that the difference in these sounds is because the USA has been influenced in the past by Spanish pronunciation?

Depends on what you call hard.

Like in G? or was that strong...?

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Perikles

This is not the case for BrE, the 't' is always hard. Do you think there is a possibility that the difference in these sounds is because the USA has been influenced in the past by Spanish pronunciation?

I don't think so. We've never pronounced a /t/ like an /r/.

Many people from several countries from the North of Europe went to America, not only British people. Surely they influenced the language or the pronunciation with their native language.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Many people from several countries from the North of Europe went to America, not only British people. Surely they influenced the language or the pronunciation with their native language.

But that is exactly what I was suggesting.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Perikles

But that is exactly what I was suggesting.

Then, I didn't understand you .

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Then, I didn't understand you .

OK - Standard BrE always pronounces the letter 't' as 't'. Better, butter, Tap, Tea, whatever, the sound is the same (except for some weird dialects). What I suggested was that immigrants in the USA who learned English as a foreign language perhaps influenced the present USA English habit of softening the 't' to a 'd' so that butter sounds like budder. Or perhaps this is rubbish.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Perikles

OK - Standard BrE always pronounces the letter 't' as 't'. Better, butter, Tap, Tea, whatever, the sound is the same (except for some weird dialects). What I suggested was that immigrants in the USA who learned English as a foreign language perhaps influenced the present USA English habit of softening the 't' to a 'd' so that butter sounds like budder. Or perhaps this is rubbish.

Yes, but not Spanish speakers.