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Old December 07, 2012, 01:14 PM
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Between Spanish and English which language is more sofisticado o superior?

¿Cúal idioma es la lengua superior entre inglés y español?
O para decirlo de otra manera cúal lenguaje es más sofisticado?
En mi opinión el español es un lenguaje más sofisticado que el Inglés porque
el español tiene más palabras derivadas del latín y griego. Las palabras inglesas más sofisticadas vienen del latín y griego. Por lo tanto, el español es el idioma más sofisticado. Si corrige mi español también responda a la pregunta. Gracias.
   
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Old December 07, 2012, 02:58 PM
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¿Cómo podría haber un idioma más sofisticado que otro? Son inconmensurables por definición.

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¿Cúal idioma es la lengua superior entre el inglés y el español?
O para decirlo de otra manera ¿cúal cuál lenguaje es más sofisticado?
En mi opinión el español es un lenguaje más sofisticado que el inglés porque el español tiene más palabras derivadas del latín y del griego. Las palabras inglesas más sofisticadas vienen del latín y del griego. Por lo tanto, el español es el idioma más sofisticado. Si corrige mi español también responda a la pregunta. Gracias.
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Creo que los dos idiomas tienen en común las palabras prestadas del griego. Y ambos tienen palabras prestadas de otros idiomas; y a veces, las mismas. Hay más de seis mil idiomas en el mundo. No creo que haya comparación adecuada para decirse que supera el uno al otro.

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Creo que cada idioma es bueno. Aunque soy un hablante nativo de inglés, ortografía y gramática del español hace mucho más sentido para mí. Inglés es un poco más irregular, pero ambos idiomas son agradables!
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Depende en la person que lo habla. Los dos idiomas son mega-idiomas hablado por todo el mundo. Me parece que el inglés es la la lingua franca actual. Si eso lo hace más sofisticado, entonces el inglés gana. Lo que es cierto es si hablas las dos lenguas igualmente bien eres una persona sofisticada. Hablar inglés y español igualmente bien es muy difícil en mi opinion.
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Depende en la person que lo habla. Los dos idiomas son mega-idiomas hablado por todo el mundo. Me parece que el inglés es la la lingua franca actual. Si eso lo hace más sofisticado, entonces el inglés gana. Lo que es cierto es si hablas las dos lenguas igualmente bien eres una persona sofisticada. Hablar inglés y español igualmente bien es muy difícil en mi opinion.
El español no es la lengua más hablada, el chino es y mientras que el inglés es la lingua franca de facto del mundo de los negocios, de hecho, ocupa el cuarto lugar detrás del chino, el hindi y el español. Así que cerca de mil millones de personas hablan español. Sin embargo, más de mil millones hablan el inglés también, pero no todos ellos como lengua materna o primera lengua pero como segunda lengua. El español es hablado como lengua materna a través de América del Sur, y gran parte de los EE.UU. También se habla en España, su país de origen y en otras lugares de todo el mundo. El español es una lengua latina o lengua romance por la clasificación mientras que el inglés es germánico. Sin embargo el inglés tiene de 50% o 60% de su vocabulario que viene del latin. Se puede decir que hasta el inglés es un idioma semi-Latino. Así que, las personas que sólo hablan el inglés son en realidad semi-latinos. Esto me parece ser muy divertido e irónico.

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Creo que los dos idiomas tienen en común las palabras prestadas del griego. Y ambos tienen palabras prestadas de otros idiomas; y a veces, las mismas. Hay más de seis mil idiomas en el mundo. No creo que haya comparación adecuada para decirse que supera el uno al otro.
Estoy de acuerdo!

pero pienso que solo podemos decir que ahora el inglés es más importante que el español para trabajar...mmm por ejemplo en mi país no puedo encontrar un buen trabajo si no hablo inglés incluso si puedo hablar español muy bien o cualquier otro idioma
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Sin embargo el inglés tiene de 50% o 60% de su vocabulario que viene del latin.

I don't know how true that is (I suspect, not very). I do know that English has robbed every European language for its vocabulary:

"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."
James D. Nicoll (1990-05-15). The King's English

English is, as you say, primarily Germanic in origin, but there's a healthy mix of French, Danish, Celtic, Spanish, and on and on in its vocabulary. English is an invented language. The largest dictionary in the world is the Oxford English Dictionary, with 1.5 million entries. There's a reason for that.

As for which language is the most sophisticated, or the most superior -- that. to me, is, forgive me, a supremely silly question.
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I will reply in English because that's the language I'm trying to improve the most in this period. Corrections are very welcome. Undoubtly Spanish, and the other Latin languages, have a more complex grammar: in Spanish every verb has about one hundred different conjugations, while English verbs have only about ten different conjugations. In my opinion, the simplicity of a language it is a good thing: probably, English has become so popular also because its grammar is quite simple.

On the other hand, though, English is much more difficult when it comes to phonetics. In Latin languages, to every letter, or in a few cases to every group of two-three letters (French "eau"), it corresponds a determinate sound; in English there isn't an one-to-one correspondence between letters and sounds, and so you have to learn the pronunciation of each word separately. Surely I speak English worse than I write it. When I was in London last year, though, people understood me fairly well.
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I will reply in English because that's the language I'm trying to improve the most in this period. Corrections are very welcome. Undoubtly Spanish, and the other Latin languages, have a more complex grammar: in Spanish every verb has about one hundred different conjugations, while English verbs have only about ten different conjugations. In my opinion, the simplicity of a language it is a good thing: probably, English has become so popular also because its grammar is quite simple.

On the other hand, though, English is much more difficult when it comes to phonetics. In Latin languages, to every letter, or in a few cases to every group of two-three letters (French "eau"), it corresponds a determinate sound; in English there isn't an one-to-one correspondence between letters and sounds, and so you have to learn the pronunciation of each word separately. Surely I speak English worse than I write it. When I was in London last year, though, people understood me fairly well.
I totally agree with the phonetic, but i think French is harder than English.
I had French for 2 years in school but i don't remember anything. I didn't care that much about French at that time. It was very annoying that i couldn't do the French "r", which is odd because all Viennese people can do it.
Fortunately, Spanish is very easy regarding the phonetic as you said. The conjugation is a pain, though.
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I will reply in English because that's the language I'm trying to improve the most in this period(instead of in this period, you may chose at the moment, because it is more natural- sounding. Corrections are very(instead of very welcome, use most welcome. In this case it sounds more like natural English) welcome. Undoubtly Spanish, and the other Latin (romance instead of Latin) languages, have a more complex grammar: in Spanish every verb has about one hundred different conjugations, while English verbs have only about ten different conjugations. In my opinion, the simplicity of a language it is a good thing: probably, English has become so popular also because its grammar is quite simple.

On the other hand, though, English is much more difficult when it comes to phonetics. In Latin languages, to every letter, or in a few cases to every group of two-three letters (French "eau"), it corresponds a determinate sound; in English there isn't an one-to-one correspondence between letters and sounds, and so you have to learn the pronunciation of each word separately. Surely I speak English worse than I write it. When I was in London last year, though, people understood me fairly well.
You write English well. Your errors are minor, and mostly stylistic.
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Thank you Poli, I take note of your corrections!
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It was very annoying that i couldn't do the French "r", which is odd because all Viennese people can do it.
That's interesting... I've always thought that German "r" is the same as French "r".

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Fortunately, Spanish is very easy regarding the phonetic as you said. The conjugation is a pain, though.
Not much harder than German conjugation though.
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That's interesting... I've always thought that German "r" is the same as French "r".

Fortunately, Spanish is very easy regarding the phonetic as you said. The conjugation is a pain, though.

Not much harder than German conjugation though.
It is, but my parents were immigrants and their native language has the same "r" like Spanish and Italian. So, i think it kind of had an influence on me.
In some regions in Germany, they roll the "r" like in Spanish, which is the case in Bayern and Nürnberg. In Austria, almost every region does it like the French "r", except Voralberg. I don't know about the Swiss German.
The German language has no subjuntivo and less tenses.
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I see. That's a problem solved in Spanish then.
However, German does have the Konjunktiv; it should help (sometimes).
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I see. That's a problem solved in Spanish then.
However, German does have the Konjunktiv; it should help (sometimes).
Fortunately, Albanian also has that lisp sound just like the European Spanish and English.
The "Konjunktiv" is just as rarely used as the "preterito anterior", only in the written language.
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Hmm... I was thinking about the cases when it's used to talk about something that is not true or certain, to express doubt, to express wishes... all of those are mostly the same in Spanish, but it's an off-topic and I don't know that much German as to make a whole discussion about it.
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That's interesting... I've always thought that German "r" is the same as French "r".

Fortunately, Spanish is very easy regarding the phonetic as you said. The conjugation is a pain, though.

Not much harder than German conjugation though.



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2/3 de todos los verbos españoles son regulares. Así que si sabes como conjugar tres verbos regulares españoles entonces puedes conjugar todos los verbos regulares españoles. Memorice cómo conjugar: hablar, comer y vivir.

Por ejemplo: yo hablo, tu hablas, usted habla, nosotros hablamos, ustedes hablan

Por supuesto es él habla, ella habla y ellos y ellas hablan(No es necesario repetir estos)

No te preocupes demasiado acerca de vosotros.

Ahora, tomemos como ejemplo el verbo regular amar to love.
Porque sabes conjugar hablar puedes conjugar amar.

yo amo
tu amas
usted ama
nosotros amamos
ustedes aman

Ahora Premium, haga lo mismo con comer y vivir.

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2/3 de todos los verbos españoles son regulares. Así que si sabes como conjugar tres verbos regulares españoles entonces puedes conjugar todos los verbos regulares españoles. Memorice cómo conjugar: hablar, comer y vivir.

Por ejemplo: yo hablo, tu hablas, usted habla, nosotros hablamos, ustedes hablan

No te preocupes demasiado acerca de vosotros.

Ahora, tomemos como ejemplo el verbo regular amar to love.
Porque sabes conjugar hablar puedes conjugar amar.

yo amo
tu amas
usted ama
nosotros amamos
ustedes aman
Pues vivo en Europa, yo aprendí la forma de vosotros también. En primer lugar yo era muy nervioso pero ahora sé las conjugaciónes.
Lo siento por mis errores.
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Pues vivo en Europa, yo aprendí la forma de vosotros también. En primer lugar yo era muy nervioso pero ahora sé las conjugaciónes.
Lo siento por mis errores.
A ver si puedes hacerlo ahora Premium. Pon vosotros también si quieres.

Conjuga estos verbos en el presente:

ayudar
bailar
cambiar
cantar

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