No pensar hacer algo

[regalsun]

Buenos días a todos.

Alguién puede acalar el significado de la siguiente frase:

"No pienso pagar esa injusta multa"


Quiere decire:

I have no intention of paying that unjust fine

o simplemente

I am not going to pay that unjust fine?


Muchas gracias.
R.

[aleCcowaN]

"I have no intention ...."

pensar1.

...
3. tr. Intentar o formar ánimo de hacer algo.

Source.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by aleCcowaN

"I have no intention ...."

I find this really rather tricky. So the 'obvious' literal translation would be 'I don't think I am going to pay...' which is not nearly so forceful. How would you express that doubt?

[chileno]

Originally Posted by Perikles

I find this really rather tricky. So the 'obvious' literal translation would be 'I don't think I am going to pay...' which is not nearly so forceful. How would you express that doubt?

Con el subjuntivo...

I don't think I am going to pay that unjust fine.

Try.

[aleCcowaN]

Originally Posted by chileno

Con el subjuntivo...

You took the words out of my mouth (and the emoticon from my fingertips)

There's kind a lesson hidden there: Spanish subjunctive is difficult, but Spanish infinitive is even more difficult as it is always decisive.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by chileno

Con el subjuntivo...

I don't think I am going to pay that unjust fine.

Try.

Slavedriver

No creo que vaya a pagar esa injusta multa.
No pienso que vaya a pagar esa injusta multa.
No pienso que pague esa injusta multa.

[regalsun]

Gracias a todos por vuestras aclaraciones.

R.

[chileno]

Originally Posted by aleCcowaN

You took the words out of my mouth (and the emoticon from my fingertips)

There's kind a lesson hidden there: Spanish subjunctive is difficult, but Spanish infinitive is even more difficult as it is always decisive.

I try. You know i don't speak "grammar".

Originally Posted by Perikles

Slavedriver

No creo que (yo) vaya a pagar esa injusta multa.
No pienso que (yo) vaya a pagar esa injusta multa.
No pienso que (yo) pague esa injusta multa.

Yup.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by chileno

Yup.

You were both quite right to force me to try. Thanks.

[AngelicaDeAlquezar]

I agree with all answers, but I'll add a little side note: "No pienso pagar" and "no pienso que (yo) pague" would be perfect equivalents, but the second one shouldn't be used because it's the same subject ("yo"); it sounds low register.

Another way to express the doubt of "I don't think I'm going to pay", without subjunctive, could be "creo/me parece que no voy a pagar".

[chileno]

Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar

I agree with all answers, but I'll add a little side note: "No pienso pagar" and "no pienso que (yo) pague" would be perfect equivalents, but the second one shouldn't be used because it's the same subject ("yo"); it sounds low register.

Another way to express the doubt of "I don't think I'm going to pay", without subjunctive, could be "creo/me parece que no voy a pagar".

I added that (yo) because it depends of who is being talked about or who is talking... he/she/ I right?

[AngelicaDeAlquezar]

Right, Hernán. In those cases amphibology ambiguity must be avoided by introducing a pronoun.
I only said that this sentence does not express the same idea Perikles talked about, but the one in the OP. In that case, infinitive is preferred.

[aleCcowaN]

No pienso (1. tr. Imaginar, considerar o discurrir) que pague [frase inusual]= No creo (4. tr. Tener algo por verosímil o probable) que pague

No pienso (3. tr. Intentar o formar ánimo de hacer algo.) pagar = No tengo la intención de pagar

No pueden ser más diferentes en significado frases como "ni pienso constestarle" y "no pienso que le conteste [frase inusual]"

[chileno]

Pienso y creo firmemente que el contexto dictará el uso. Quizás estoy equivocado y no sería la primera vez, ni la última.