Garbage in, garbage out

[irmamar]

Please, is there somebody able to explain to me its meaning? Thanks

[Perikles]

I have used this expression when trying to translate a text which makes no sense, and you have to produce a translation which makes no sense either. If you want to produce something nice, it is impossible if your material is rubbish. What it means is that if you are doing something it is impossible to produce something nice if the material you work with makes it impossible.

German has the same expression which says "you can't make whipped cream out of sh*t" (only it sounds much funnier in German).

[irmamar]

OK, I understand it. Thank you again

[laepelba]

Another, similar saying is: "You are what you eat."

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by laepelba

Another, similar saying is: "You are what you eat."

Yes? It sounds a bit strange . If I listened that I would think of one Spanish saying: de lo que se come se cría. But I'm not sure it's related to the one of the garbage

[laepelba]

Well, it's similar. It means, literally, that your body is made up of what you're eating, and that if you're eating food that's bad for you, you're not going to be healthy. But the saying is often BROADLY applied beyond food, and sometimes even beyond the body:
- You are what you eat - if you watch garbage TV, your brain will rot
- You are what you eat - if you don't exercise, your body will rot

Both sayings, "Garbage in, garbage out" and "You are what you eat" make me think of the ancient proverb: "What you sow, you will also reap." Does that one make sense, to tie the other two together?

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by laepelba

Well, it's similar. It means, literally, that your body is made up of what you're eating, and that if you're eating food that's bad for you, you're not going to be healthy. But the saying is often BROADLY applied beyond food, and sometimes even beyond the body:
- You are what you eat - if you watch garbage TV, your brain will rot
- You are what you eat - if you don't exercise, your body will rot

Both sayings, "Garbage in, garbage out" and "You are what you eat" make me think of the ancient proverb: "What you sow, you will also reap." Does that one make sense, to tie the other two together?

Yes. We also say in Spanish: "lo que siembres, cosecharás". That's the same

[laepelba]

It's a Biblical phrase, so it is probably translated and used in many languages....

[pjt33]

Garbage in, garbage out (GIGO) se usa también con un sentido técnico en la informática. (Bueno, nunca lo he oído fuera de ese contexto). Quiere decir que si los datos que das a un programa tienen errores, también los resultados que te da el programa serán erróneos.


Y me recuerda también de un dicho de un cantautor cómico, Tom Lehrer:

Originally Posted by We Will All Go Together When We Go (intro)

Life is like a sewer. What you get out of it depends on what you put into it.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by pjt33

Garbage in, garbage out (GIGO) se usa también con un sentido técnico en la informática. (Bueno, nunca lo he oído fuera de ese contexto). Quiere decir que si los datos que das a un programa tienen errores, también los resultados que te da el programa serán erróneos.

So it's really just the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Perikles

So it's really just the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

Well, I think that's much more complicated

[chileno]

Garbage In-Garbage Out (GIGO) es un término usado en computación. Y describe como funciona electrónicamente la memoria temporal en un computador. (buffer)

La idea es que esta memoria tiene una cierta capacidad, digamos que tiene capacidad para guardar diez datos solamente. Entonces cuando entra un dato la memoria lo empuja hacia arriba o hacia abajo una vez que se llega a la capacidad y otro dato necesita entrar en esa area de memoria un dato dentro de esa memoria que había entrado tiene que salir. También existe el termino Fisrt In-First Out (FIFO) Y se refiere a la manera en que se comporta esta área de memoria, el dato que primero entró será el primero en salir, en ese orden.

[pjt33]

Chileno, creo que lo estás confundiendo con otro término. Lo que describes me parece "buffer overrun".

[irmamar]

I studied LIFO and FIFO, but not GIGO.

[chileno]

Originally Posted by pjt33

Chileno, creo que lo estás confundiendo con otro término. Lo que describes me parece "buffer overrun".

No it still a buffer and it has to do with internal housekeeping. Hence Garbage in Garbage out...

Originally Posted by irmamar

I studied LIFO and FIFO, but not GIGO.

Read above.

LIFO and FIFO are for theprogrammer to use, whereas GIGO is used by the system's firmware.

[irmamar]

De toda la vida que los programas esperan entradas válidas. Si entras basura (una entrada errónea) en un programa, saldrá basura (un error). Tal vez venga de ahí.

[pjt33]

Originally Posted by irmamar

De toda la vida que los programas esperan entradas válidas. Si entras basura (una entrada errónea) en un programa, saldrá basura (un error). Tal vez venga de ahí.

Sí, exacto. http://catb.org/jargon/html/G/GIGO.html

[chileno]

I seat corrected.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by chileno

I seat corrected.

chileno - I stand corrected, or are you just playing?

[irmamar]

I don't understand you