D.e.a.

[irmamar]

Is there a British DEA (Diploma de Estudios Avanzados) or something similar. DEA are the studies you do before starting the investigation project to obtain the doctorate after finishing a degree. It consists of studying several subjects and then make an exposition in front of an examining board, where you must talk about something that you have investigated and your future lines of investigation. You are given a DEA certificate if you pass that exposition, though you're not a doctor yet.

I'd like to know if there is something similar in GB or in Europe and its translation into English (this is not a master).

Thanks.

[Perikles]

I am not aware of such a certificate, nor anything equivalent. The procedure for a doctorate (PhD or DPhil) is the following: A university can accept a student for a PhD course according to academic merit based on their exam results for their degree (BA or BSc), usually a first-class degree or a good second class one. (The funding for the course is a different issue.) The student has an academic supervisor who determines the title of the PhD project. The first year of the course is a temporary status: it varies, sometimes involving the study of fields related to the specific PhD topic. Sometimes the student is encouraged to write papers for seminars.

At the end of the first year, the student (usually) has to present his/her work at a viva (an oral exam) and present evidence that he/she has done the groundwork with an outline of the nature of the thesis. In essence, demonstrate they know what they are doing. If this interview is successful, the student is 'upgraded' to a permanent status of PhD student.

This 'upgrade' process sounds rather like the stage which your exam is referring to, but it is all internal to the university, and as far as I know, is not a standard process in every institution.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Perikles

I am not aware of such a certificate, nor anything equivalent. The procedure for a doctorate (PhD or DPhil) is the following: A university can accept a student for a PhD course according to academic merit based on their exam results for their degree (BA or BSc), usually a first-class degree or a good second class one. (The funding for the course is a different issue.) The student has an academic supervisor who determines the title of the PhD project. The first year of the course is a temporary status: it varies, sometimes involving the study of fields related to the specific PhD topic. Sometimes the student is encouraged to write papers for seminars.

At the end of the first year, the student (usually) has to present his/her work at a viva (an oral exam) and present evidence that he/she has done the groundwork with an outline of the nature of the thesis. In essence, demonstrate they know what they are doing. If this interview is successful, the student is 'upgraded' to a permanent status of PhD student.

This 'upgrade' process sounds rather like the stage which your exam is referring to, but it is all internal to the university, and as far as I know, is not a standard process in every institution.

That's what I wanted to know, that upgrade. Could I say "somebody has an upgrade in (something)" (or upgraded in something)?

DEA here is recognized everywhere (though this is not a degree), whatever the University may be.

Do you say PhD? What is PH? I've found Doctor of Philosophy, but I guess you can be a Doctor of another subject.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by irmamar

That's what I wanted to know, that upgrade. Could I say "somebody has an upgrade in (something)" (or upgraded in something)?

No, not really. It has no value outside the individual university, and not many people would know what it was. All you could say would be that somebody is studying their 1st, 2nd or 3rd or 4th... year of a PhD.

Originally Posted by irmamar

Do you say PhD? What is PH? I've found Doctor of Philosophy, but I guess you can be a Doctor of another subject.

PhD = philosophiæ doctor, D. phil.= doctor philosophiæ (Depends on the university). Both mean the same, a doctorate in any subject other than Law, Medicine or Theology, which have their own doctorate titles.

Here, of course, philosophy takes on the older meaning of learning in general. Most PhDs today have nothing to do with what we call philosophy today.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Perikles

No, not really. It has no value outside the individual university, and not many people would know what it was. All you could say would be that somebody is studying their 1st, 2nd or 3rd or 4th... year of a PhD.

PhD = philosophiæ doctor, D. phil.= doctor philosophiæ (Depends on the university). Both mean the same, a doctorate in any subject other than Law, Medicine or Theology, which have their own doctorate titles.

Here, of course, philosophy takes on the older meaning of learning in general. Most PhDs today have nothing to do with what we call philosophy today.

Here DEA is "homologable" (comparable) in any Spanish university (luckily ). I can't find an equivalence with other university studies in Europe, and that surprises me (because of Bologna and the European convergence in higher education).

Thanks, Perikles.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Here DEA is "homologable" (comparable) in any Spanish university (luckily ).

Thanks, Perikles.

You are welcome, as ever. A qualification which is 'homologable' would be known as 'recognised' in the UK, as in
This qualification is recognised by all universities

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Perikles

You are welcome, as ever. A qualification which is 'homologable' would be known as 'recognised' in the UK, as in
This qualification is recognised by all universities

Thanks again.

[chileno]

Originally Posted by Perikles

You are welcome, as ever. A qualification which is 'homologable' would be known as 'recognised' in the UK, as in
This qualification is recognised by all universities

homologable is kin to equivalent and as such it does not mean it will be recognised/zed somewhere else.

[irmamar]

"Homologable" means also "able to be acceptede because it has some requirements". For instance, an academic qualification" must be "homologado". If you came here to study, you should have your studies "homologados" by our education authorities, if they aren't you should start your studies here, because they are not valid.

Furthermore, almost everything you buy must be "homologado". For example, you want to install a gas boiler. You can't buy it somewhere and install yourself: both the boiler and the installer must be "homologados", recognized by the authorities and able to be used.

[bobjenkins]

Originally Posted by irmamar

"Homologable" means also "able to be acceptede because it has some requirements". For instance, an academic qualification" must be "homologado". If you came here to study, you should have your studies "homologados" by our education authorities, if they aren't you should start your studies here, because they are not valid.

Furthermore, almost everything you buy must be "homologado". For example, you want to install a gas boiler. You can't buy it somewhere and install yourself: both the boiler and the installer must be "homologados", recognized by the authorities and able to be used.

Un tópico diferente pero si la ves en los EE UU significa

drug enforcement administration

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by bobjenkins

Un tópico diferente pero si la ves en los EE UU significa

drug enforcement administration

Yes, that was the first thing I found when I was looking for information about it

Nothing to see with it.

[chileno]

Originally Posted by irmamar

"Homologable" means also "able to be acceptede because it has some requirements". For instance, an academic qualification" must be "homologado". If you came here to study, you should have your studies "homologados" by our education authorities, if they aren't you should start your studies here, because they are not valid.

Furthermore, almost everything you buy must be "homologado". For example, you want to install a gas boiler. You can't buy it somewhere and install yourself: both the boiler and the installer must be "homologados", recognized by the authorities and able to be used.

Must be the way you use it in Spain.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by chileno

Must be the way you use it in Spain.

Maybe