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Old February 01, 2010, 06:18 AM
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Place names

There are Spanish names for Bordeaux ,Stockholm, etc.

Now I am looking for Brandebourg in particular and other examples if time allows.

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Old February 01, 2010, 06:34 AM
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Brandebourg would probably be Brandeburgo seeing as most other place names with -bourg, -burg or -burgh endings are translated as -burgo: Estrasburgo, Edimburgo
Some more translations off the top of my head: Londres, Nueva York, Estambul, Moscú, Lieja, Bruselas, Colonia, Marsella, San Juan de Luz, Bretaña, Milán, Venecia, Florencia, Atenas, Ginebra...
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Old February 01, 2010, 11:15 AM
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Brandenburgo: Los Conciertos de Brandenburgo, de J. S. Bach
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Old February 02, 2010, 02:15 AM
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Brandenburgo: Los Conciertos de Brandenburgo, de J. S. Bach
He visto las dos posibilidades: Brandeburgo y Brandemburgo
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Algunos de mis favoritos no aparecen, como la citada Brandemburgo y Aquisgrán (Aachen -lat.Aquisgranum)

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Old February 02, 2010, 04:09 AM
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In google:

"Brandeburgo": 192.000
"Brandenburgo": 162.000
"Brandemburgo": 111.000

My disk says Brandenburgo, as this one.

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Brandenburg is the correct spelling for the region of Germany, hence the concerti of Bach, but there a quite a few surnames such as Brandeburg etc, hence possibly the confusion.
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Brandenburg is the correct spelling for the region of Germany, hence the concerti of Bach, but there a quite a few surnames such as Brandeburg etc, hence possibly the confusion.
Do you say "concerti" with Italian plural?
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Old February 02, 2010, 12:30 PM
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Do you say "concerti" with Italian plural?
I knew when I wrote it, there would be query, and I guessed from whom. Yes, it is perfectly correct, even though (*think* you can't say even although ) most people these days would say concertos. But I can't bring myself to add an 's' to a polysyllabic Latin or Greek word ending in 'o'.
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...and concerto is pronounced concherto.
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I knew when I wrote it, there would be query, and I guessed from whom. Yes, it is perfectly correct, even though (*think* you can't say even although ) most people these days would say concertos. But I can't bring myself to add an 's' to a polysyllabic Latin or Greek word ending in 'o'.
I you don't want to be asked, don't write such words

By the way, I always say "even though" (even although seems so long )

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...and concerto is pronounced concherto.
That's what I guessed, since this is an Italian word.
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I you don't want to be asked, don't write such words

By the way, I always say "even though" (even although seems so long )

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That's what I guessed, since this is an Italian word.
Never assume this. English speakers notoriously screw up foreign words.
The Brits are even worse at this than the Americans (sorry Peri but it's true)
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Never assume this. English speakers notoriously screw up foreign words.
The Brits are even worse at this than the Americans (sorry Peri but it's true)
We don't screw them up- we anglicise them


Actually it's one of my pet hates that proper nouns get changed in different languages. I was listening to the TV news one day & they were talking about La Reina Isabel. I had to stop what I was doing to actually look at the TV to find out who they were talking about.

It was our very own Queen Elizabeth.


Why do they do that??!!
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We don't screw them up- we anglicise them


Actually it's one of my pet hates that proper nouns get changed in different languages. I was listening to the TV news one day & they were talking about La Reina Isabel. I had to stop what I was doing to actually look at the TV to find out who they were talking about.

It was our very own Queen Elizabeth.


Why do they do that??!!
Carlos Dickens used to get me... They don't seem to do that any more, but they do still talk about Principe Carlos...
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Don't you do the same? Why do you say Spain, Seville, Catalonia. Although I agree because you say King Juan Carlos. Sometimes, we say Reina Elisabeth (instead of Elizabeth), too.


I've never heard "Carlos" Dickens, but Charles.
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Don't you do the same? Why do you say Spain, Seville, Catalonia. Although I agree because you say King Juan Carlos. Sometimes, we say Reina Elisabeth (instead of Elizabeth), too.


I've never heard "Carlos" Dickens, but Charles.
Place names I can sort of understand - although I still don't like it

Changing the names of people is ridiculous though!

I even saw on our local Valenciano channel they changed the name of one of the infantas to a Valenciano version when she was born!
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Old February 03, 2010, 01:25 AM
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Such things are very common here in Catalonia,as "Rei Joan Carles" and "Príncep Felip". I don't agree with it, but it's very common. I have a Spanish name they always change it into a Catalonian one. Don't ask me why, it's written in my DNI, I think they're able to read it
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Los medios españoles cambian algunos nombres pero otros no. Nunca he leído "Antonio Blair" en el periódico.
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Never assume this. English speakers notoriously screw up foreign words.
The Brits are even worse at this than the Americans (sorry Peri but it's true)
I'm not quite sure what you mean with 'screw up' - examples please, especially where Brits get in wrong and Americans don't.

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Changing the names of people is ridiculous though!
Wasn't it Blandirlanze who wrote Macbeth?

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Wasn't it Blandirlanze who wrote Macbeth?
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