So how long have you been studying your "new" language?

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Is "what's the point" a saying?

Yes. what's the point? = ¿qué sentido tiene?

[irmamar]

Thanks

[pjt33]

Originally Posted by Perikles

You drink water ????? I didn't know that people did this in Spain.

Mira, vas reforzando la imagen que tienen los españoles de los ingleses que somos todos borrachos.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by pjt33

Mira, vas reforzando la imagen que tienen los españoles de los ingleses que somos todos borrachos.

[irmamar]

En vuestra tierra, no sé; pero aquí...

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by irmamar

En vuestra tierra, no sé; pero aquí...

En Inglaterra también.

[danny]

i had to use my book to translate those last few posts, lol and the online one for "Inglaterra" it says that means "england" ?

I always thought the name of a country or a city was universal?

for example, no matter what you speak, i still live in "boston" and so on.

or am I wrong?

and i should know this, but "tienes" is "have", or "you have" or both?

[pjt33]

Originally Posted by danny

i had to use my book to translate those last few posts, lol and the online one for "Inglaterra" it says that means "england" ?

I always thought the name of a country or a city was universal?

Often, but not always. Do you say España when you're talking English? Do bitter oranges come from Sevilla or Seville?

Other cities which differ include London / Londres; Edinburgh / Edimburgo; New York / Nueva York; Havana / La Habana.

Most non-Spanish-speaking countries differ (and even one or two Spanish-speaking ones do slightly: Peru / Perú; Equatorial Guinea / Guinea Ecuatorial).



"Tienes" is "you (tú) have".

[irmamar]

yo tengo
tú tienes / usted tiene
él tiene
nosotros tenemos
vosotros tenéis (in Spain) / ustedes tienen (in LA and "usted" treatment in Spain)
ellos tienen

Verb: tener.

[danny]

i never tried to learn word by word before..

Pero.....Yo tengo muchas preguntas

tú tienes y ustedes tienen they mean the same? "you have"? so i can use either?

ellos tienen y vosotros tenéis the same too?

and "she has" would be....ella tiene, y ella tienen?

[pjt33]

Originally Posted by danny

i never tried to learn word by word before..

Pero.....Yo tengo muchas preguntas

tú tienes y ustedes tienen they mean the same? "you have"? so i can use either?

ellos tienen y vosotros tenéis the same too?

and "she has" would be....ella tiene, y ella tienen?

No. If you're talking to a single person (or addressing a group of people as individuals, or using "you" in a general sense talking about an individual) you use different pronouns and verb endings that if you're addressing a group of people (as a group). There are also variations with formality, as well as big variations between different Spanish-speaking communities.

"Tú tienes" is singular (one person) and informal (in most countries you'd use it with your girlfriend, family, close friends; in Spain you use it with pretty much everyone except for bureaucrats, police, etc.)

"Usted tiene" is singular and formal (except in e.g. parts of Colombia where it's the only singular second person).

"Vosotros tenéis" is plural, informal, and European. You never hear it in Latin America except when someone's reading from the Bible.

"Ustedes tienen" is plural and either formal or Latin American.


The formal forms (usted and ustedes) use the same verb endings as the third person (he/she/it/they) endings of the same number: i.e.

singular: usted tiene; él tiene; ella tiene
plural: ustedes tienen; ellos tienen; ellas tienen

[AngelicaDeAlquezar]

@Danny: you need a conjugation manual for learning the correspondence between pronouns, tenses and verbs.

[CrOtALiTo]

Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar

@Danny: you need a conjugation manual for learning the correspondence between pronouns, tenses and verbs.

Angelica.

Really I know about your knowledge in the forums, but sometimes you write phrases that really I can't understand you.

Can you explain me the last post made for you.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by CrOtALiTo

Angelica.

Really I know about your knowledge in the forums, but sometimes you write phrases that really I can't understand you.

Can you explain me the last post made for you.

I understood it perfectly well . She means that @Danny needs to get some lists of verbs conjugated in the form of number and person so that he can see which pronouns go with which forms of the verb. More basically, he needs to see verbs set out with singular and plural so he can see the basic pattern. He needs to do this with the present tense first, then move on to other tenses.

[chileno]

Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar

@Danny: you need a conjugation manual for learning the correspondence between pronouns, tenses and verbs.

That's good if he has the time.

However, if he can visualize the following, I think it will be of help:

I = Yo
You = Tú (Usted-Formal (respectful))
He = Él
She = Ella
It = Eso (It does not exist in Spanish as personal pronoun, it also is an neuter article)
We = Nosotros
You = Ustedes (LA), Vosotros (Spain) (not informal or otherwise)
They = Ellos

[CrOtALiTo]

Originally Posted by Perikles

I understood it perfectly well . She means that @Danny needs to get some lists of verbs conjugated in the form of number and person so that he can see which pronouns go with which forms of the verb. More basically, he needs to see verbs set out with singular and plural so he can see the basic pattern. He needs to do this with the present tense first, then move on to other tenses.

Yeah, I know perhaps I'm the person who I don't understand anything, but casually I didn't understand as she wrote it in the post.

I'm sorry.

It's seem a lot technicality.

[Jessica]

since 8th grade. actually started in 7th, but I don't count that since it was super easy.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by chileno

That's good if he has the time.

However, if he can visualize the following, I think it will be of help:

I = Yo
You = Tú (Usted-Formal (respectful))
He = Él
She = Ella
It = Eso (It does not exist in Spanish as personal pronoun, it also is an neuter article)
We = Nosotros
You = Ustedes (LA), Vosotros (Spain) (not informal or otherwise)
They = Ellos

And

They = Ellas

[chileno]

Originally Posted by irmamar

And

They = Ellas

What happens is that I am a male chauvinist...

Thanks for pointing that out, I certainly forgot to include it.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by chileno

What happens is that I am a male chauvinist...

Thanks for pointing that out, I certainly forgot to include it.

What happens?

That I'm here to avoid it