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Old August 04, 2009, 09:59 AM
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Talking Beaten and biten, bug and bag

I find difficult to pronunce correctly /i:/ and /i/ or /^/ /a/ can naybody help?
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Old August 04, 2009, 10:04 AM
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aquí es un tonto poema que quizás te ayude con los sonidos de esas letras

Swan swam over the pond,
Swim swan swim!
Swan swam back again -
Well swum swan!

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Old August 04, 2009, 02:25 PM
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It's a good idea to listen closely when you hear natives speak and then to say it like they do.
There are also books that help with phonetics, especially with confusing sounds like the ones you mention: Three or tree? and Ship or sheep? are very good.
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I made a fast search in the Internet about the word Beaten.

And I found just the means of the word, anyhow the result isn't very clear for me.

After the word Beaten means Batir.

It is right?

Therefore I can use that sentence in this examples.

Today I got walk very early around 7.A.M. and I made myself a chocolate beaten.


I appreciate your help anyhow.
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Old August 05, 2009, 09:58 AM
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Just an idea: These two sites contain a large database with words pronounced by American and English natives.

You can download the files as mp3's as well.

This way perhaps it will help you get a better grasp of the more subtle differences.

http://forvo.com/languages/en/

http://swac-collections.org/?lang=eng

Hope they will be helpful to you


By the way a while ago I came across a program that helps you pronounce, i.e. test your pronunciation and 'grade' it, evaluate it I think - but it' s not free. I know it exists though in case you are interested.
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I made a fast search in the Internet about the word Beaten.

And I found just the means of the word, anyhow the result isn't very clear for me.

After the word Beaten means Batir.

It is right?

Therefore I can use that sentence in this examples.

Today I got walk very early around 7.A.M. and I made myself hot chocolate


I appreciate your help anyhow.
Beaten signfica batido (la forma indicativo perfecto del verbo batir)
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Old August 05, 2009, 10:45 AM
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"Beaten, bitten, bug, bag" in what I would consider a pretty neutral American English pronunciation.
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Old August 05, 2009, 11:09 AM
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Beaten signfica batido (la forma indicativo perfecto del verbo batir)
Yes, I understand the meaning of the word.

But I made an instance about the use of the word in my last example, the such you've highlighted the word beaten written in my last post.

There's thing that I can't understand, I know that beaten means batido, but I want to understand. Where can I use that word?

For instance. I've understood that Batido is used in my country for people when they want to say. I'm beaten to chocolate.

Estoy batido de chocolate.


I'm no very sure, if I can use this word in the follow sentence.

The cake has beaten to peach.

El pastel tiene batido de Durazno.


I appreciate your help anyhow.
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Old August 05, 2009, 11:17 AM
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Thank you very much Empanadañanñan y TOmisimo por molestarte en grabarlo. No sé como lo haces, me gustaría poder grabar algo.
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Old August 05, 2009, 11:19 AM
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Is there a position to adopt with the tongue or something?
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Yes, I understand the meaning of the word.

But I made an instance about the use of the word in my last example, the such you've highlighted the word beaten written in my last post.

There's thing that I can't understand, I know that beaten means batido, but I want to understand. Where can I use that word?

For instance. I've understood that Batido is used in my country for people when they want to say. I'm beaten to chocolate.

Estoy batido de chocolate.


I'm no very sure, if I can use this word in the follow sentence.

The cake has beaten to peach.

El pastel tiene batido de Durazno.


I appreciate your help anyhow.
Aunque entiendas el significado de la palabra, debes entender que la palabra tiene muchos usos.

Por ejemplo,

El pastel tiene batido de durazno.
The cake has "whipped" peach frosting.

Me tomé un batido a la hora del almuerzo.
I had a milkshake for lunch.

Me dieron una buena batida/golpiza/paliza los maleantes.
I was beaten pretty bad by those creeps.

We were beaten on our last game of football.
Nos ganaron el último juero de fútbol.

Y todavía hay muchos más usos.........

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Thank you very much Empanadañanñan y TOmisimo por molestarte en grabarlo. No sé como lo haces, me gustaría poder grabar algo.
Just for you: http://forums.tomisimo.org/showthread.php?t=4897
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Old August 05, 2009, 07:54 PM
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Aunque entiendas el significado de la palabra, debes entender que la palabra tiene muchos usos.

Por ejemplo,

El pastel tiene batido de durazno.
The cake has "whipped" peach frosting.

Me tomé un batido a la hora del almuerzo.
I had a milkshake for lunch.

Me dieron una buena batida/golpiza/paliza los maleantes.
I was beaten pretty bad by those creeps.

We were beaten on our last game of football.
Nos ganaron el último juero de fútbol.

Y todavía hay muchos más usos.........

Then definitely I don't believe understand the real means of the word for complete, because if it has many meanings and its use is indifference, therefore I don't find sense in some examples, for instance time before I commented about the examples I gave you, but using the word beaten, but as I can see the word with the examples that I written isn't appropriate for my examples, therefore I've to learn the different means of the words written here.
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Here you can hear the English (BrE) sounds:

http://www.abelard.org/briefings/pho...ish.php#vowels
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That´s great Irma, Thanks.
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You're welcome. I think it's useful for us
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Yes, I understand the meaning of the word.

But I made an instance about the use of the word in my last example, the such you've highlighted the word beaten written in my last post.

There's thing that I can't understand, I know that beaten means batido, but I want to understand. Where can I use that word?

For instance. I've understood that Batido is used in my country for people when they want to say. I'm beaten to chocolate.

Estoy batido de chocolate.


I'm no very sure, if I can use this word in the follow sentence.

The cake has beaten to peach.

El pastel tiene batido de Durazno.


I appreciate your help anyhow.
The police have beaten the suspect.

Mexico has beaten USA in Sundays game.

You need 2 eggs beaten, add a splash of milk and a table spoon of salt.
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The police have beaten the suspect.

Mexico has beaten USA in Sundays game.

You need 2 eggs beaten, add a splash of milk and a table spoon of salt.
In the first one doesn't make sense in Spanish.

The phrase should be so.

The police have grasp the suspect.


In the another phrases are logic.


Thank you for the correct.
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Sometimes police may repeatedly hit/strike an individual or suspect or a person may repeatedly hit/strike a person in a fist fight like in boxing. The police have beaten him to death. (Past tense) The police are beating him to death. (Present tense) The police will beat him to death. (Future tense) The police are going to beat him to death. (Future tense)

I hope I make sense. It has been many years since I have formally studied English.
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