Godo

[JPablo]

During the days of Simón Bolívar, the "Spaniards" were called (derogatorily) "Godos". (They/we were the oppressive force against freedom and liberty for the Latin American countries.) They were also called "realistas" (Royalists) and probably (?) "monárquicos" (monarchist persons.)

Currently, I believe, they (we, since I am a Spaniard, too) are called "gallegos".
Is there any other denomination used? (Both in the time of the War of Independence, and currently.)

In Spain, the word "españolito" can be used positively, and/or sarcastically.

Machado had a poem, "Españolito que vienes al mundo, te guarde Dios: una de las dos Españas ha de helarte el corazón." (His use here seems more affective than derogatory... with a bit of bitter/sweet taste.)

Any data on the above will be appreciated.

(Besides my interest on the above, I know they call Pau Gasol "the Spanish Gladiator" and that is definitely positive... but that is a species of another hue...)

[chileno]

Originally Posted by JPablo

During the days of Simón Bolívar, the "Spaniards" were called (derogatorily) "Godos". (They/we were the oppressive force against freedom and liberty for the Latin American countries.) They were also called "realistas" (Royalists) and probably (?) "monárquicos" (monarchist persons.)

Currently, I believe, they (we, since I am a Spaniard, too) are called "gallegos".
Is there any other denomination used? (Both in the time of the War of Independence, and currently.)

In Spain, the word "españolito" can be used positively, and/or sarcastically.

Machado had a poem, "Españolito que vienes al mundo, te guarde Dios: una de las dos Españas ha de helarte el corazón." (His use here seems more affective than derogatory... with a bit of bitter/sweet taste.)

Any data on the above will be appreciated.

(Besides my interest on the above, I know they call Pau Gasol "the Spanish Gladiator" and that is definitely positive... but that it is a species kind of another hue...)

I guess "gallego" because of being "sttuborn"?

[ookami]

Around here:
Español: gallego
Italiano: tano
This is the only thing I can say about this.

[AngelicaDeAlquezar]

"Gachupín" in Mexico.
I don't know where the word comes from, but during Independence war, it was used as a pejorative name for Spaniards. One of the main mottos at the start of the war was "¡Mueran los gachupines!". They were clearly distinguished from the children of Spaniards, born in Mexico, who were called "criollos" and who led the initiative of Independence.


Btw, in Colombia (and maybe also in Venezuela) "godos" became a term associated with conservatives during past fights between them and liberals (in their turn called "cachiporros").


Btw, in more recent times, the cliché of a "gallego" as a synonym for a stupid Spaniard is commonly used in jokes, equivalent to those of "Lepe" in Spain.

Not the sides one is proud of one's own culture, right?

[ROBINDESBOIS]

I heard the word gachupín somewhere, it´s good to know what it means. Anyway, we also have names for people from other countries, so no sweat, it´s human condition.

[irmamar]

Los canarios también nos llaman "godos" a los peninsulares.

[ookami]

Another new thing for me; I've never heared the term "godos" used in that way. I was expecting to find something related to the ancient german population on this topic :P
* how can I say here: "relacionado con el antiguo pueblo germano" I don't know how to translate "pueblo"

[pjt33]

"Pueblo" en este contexto se traduce "people" o "people group" (sinónimo de "grupo étnico") pero creo que sea más corriente hablar de "the ancient German tribe of the visigoths".

[ookami]

Thanks pjt33 (I don't know which term would be more accurated, I used "pueblo" because it's in RAE definitions)

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Los canarios también nos llaman "godos" a los peninsulares.

Gran Diccionario del Habla Canaria: godo col. y. despec. Español o peninsular arrogante, fanfarrón ....

[JPablo]

Originally Posted by ookami

Another new thing for me; I've never heard the term "godos" used in that way. I was expecting to find something related to the ancient german population on this topic :P
* how can I say here: "relacionado con el antiguo pueblo germano" I don't know how to translate "pueblo"

"Related to [connected with] the old Germanic people"
Well, Visigoths were in Spain and Ostrogoths in Italy. That is, Goths from the West (Spain) and Goths from the East (Italy). The Visigoths were in Spain ruling up until 711, when the Arabs invaded the Peninsula.

At any rate, there are a couple of interesting books, Bolivar, Liberator of a Continent, and The Four Seasons of Manuela, where the term "godo" is used in the English original version, but of course using the term in its Spanish original form. I believe there is a Spanish translation of it. (Manuela Sáenz fue la liberadora, compañera de Bolívar...)

Thank you and to everyone. Gachupín or Cachupín, comes from Portuguese, "cachopo" "niño". "Cada día se aprende algo...

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Perikles

Gran Diccionario del Habla Canaria: godo col. y. despec. Español o peninsular arrogante, fanfarrón ....

Bueno, seremos fanfarrones, pero los canarios deben ser incultos, ya que los godos (supuestamente originarios de Gotaland, Suecia) del oeste, o visigodos, que se asentaron en la península eran muy cultos.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by irmamar

pero los canarios deben ser incultos

[JPablo]

¡Nusotros semos mah kurtos que naide!

[chileno]

Originally Posted by JPablo

¡Nusotros semos mah kurtos que naide!

En Chile campestre sería con "náiden"

[JPablo]

Originally Posted by chileno

En Chile campestre sería con "náiden"

Pos grasias, Xhileno... cuando vaya pajyá pa Xhile diré aquecho de "Primero cho, ¡y endispuéh de cho, náiden!" (Pa quedá bien con la hente.)

(My apologies to the English natives trying to decipher this... but this would be somewhat the way some people in the countryside would talk...)

If any questions, I take the effort to translate it into 'normal' Spanish.
Pues gracias, Chileno... cuando vaya para allá, para Chile diré aquello de "Primero yo, ¡y después de yo, nadie!" (Para quedar bien con la gente.)

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by JPablo

¡Nusotros semos mah kurtos que naide!

Vamos a dejarlo en "éramos".

[JPablo]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Vamos a dejarlo en "éramos".

¡¡¡Así es!!! "Éramos" que ya no lo "semos"...

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by JPablo

¡¡¡Así es!!! "Éramos" que ya no lo "semos"...

Jajaja, o "habemos" sido.

[chileno]

Originally Posted by JPablo

Pos grasias, Xhileno... cuando vaya pajyá pa Xhile diré aquecho de "Primero cho, ¡y endispuéh de cho, náiden!" (Pa quedá bien con la hente.)

(My apologies to the English natives trying to decipher this... but this would be somewhat the way some people in the countryside would talk...)

If any questions, I take the effort to translate it into 'normal' Spanish.
Pues gracias, Chileno... cuando vaya para allá, para Chile diré aquello de "Primero yo, ¡y después de yo, nadie!" (Para quedar bien con la gente.)

ese "cho" es de alla, o crees que asi decimos en xhile?

Los argentinos tienen el "sho"

Ya pasó er número uno? Agora le toca ar dó! (eso es típico chileno)