Hospedar

[DailyWord]

This is a discussion thread for the Daily Spanish Word for November 16, 2009

hospedar (masculine noun (el)) — to lodge, give a room to, put up. Look up hospedar in the dictionary

Iba a viajar a las montañas y un primo ofreció hospedarme en su casa por unos días.
I was going to visit the mountains and a cousin of mine offered to let me stay at his house for a few days.

[laepelba]

Just trying to make connections here ... it seems to be obvious that "hospedar" and "huésped" are related words. Can someone walk me through that connection and give some other related terms? Thanks!

[poli]

Huéped is the guest. Anfitrión is the host. I think anfitrion is English too (by way of Greece), but as you know nobody uses the term.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by laepelba

Just trying to make connections here ... it seems to be obvious that "hospedar" and "huésped" are related words. Can someone walk me through that connection and give some other related terms? Thanks!

They both derive from hospitem, acc. Latin hospes, host, stranger, guest. The connection between host and guest is an ancient one, no doubt because it was based on reciprocity in that if you had someone as guest, it was understood that you could then be their guest. Confusing.

Originally Posted by poli

Huéped is the guest. Anfitrión is the host. I think anfitrion is English too (by way of Greece), but as you know nobody uses the term.

Anfitrión is from the French amphitryon, dinner host from a play Amphitryon by Moliere (1667). Probably based on the Amphitryon of Greek mythology, husband of Alkmene, seduced by Zeus in the form of said husband, giving birth to Herakles. The connection is that Amphitryon was the host to Zeus. Not the best behaviour for a guest, but Gods can do anything. (That is the short explanation )

[CrOtALiTo]

There's any translation for the word hospedar.

[laepelba]

Originally Posted by poli

Huéped is the guest. Anfitrión is the host. I think anfitrion is English too (by way of Greece), but as you know nobody uses the term.

Thanks - in fact, I have never heard the word "anfitrion". But my vocabulary in English is minuscule!!

Originally Posted by Perikles

They both derive from hospitem, acc. Latin hospes, host, stranger, guest. The connection between host and guest is an ancient one, no doubt because it was based on reciprocity in that if you had someone as guest, it was understood that you could then be their guest. Confusing.

I actually don't think it's confusing. What I DO think is that American's don't really *get* hospitality. On my trips to Africa, when hosted in someone's home or when visiting someone's place of employment, they were PROFUSE in their expression of gratitude. It is my experience that the guest thanks the host (in the USA). But after experiencing the culture in Kenya, I realized that the host is MOST grateful for the guest gracing their home/workplace/etc. with their presence. My presence in their home was a blessing to them! Most humbling to realize how backwards my thinking about American hospitality is. NOW, when I have the opportunity to have guests, I am certainly most grateful ... and am thrilled to entertain in my home. I have even made the guest bedroom the most comfortable room in my home (I hope!) and I try to keep the attitude that even if it's a little inconvenient for me, I will even be happy (truly happy) to welcome even last-minute guests.

[Tomisimo]

Originally Posted by CrOtALiTo

There's any translation for the word hospedar.

Yes. Read the first post.

[irmamar]

Hospedar, from Latin "hospitari"

Related words: hospedaje, hospedería, huésped, hospiciano, inhospedable, inhospitalario, inhóspito, etc.

[laepelba]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Hospedar, from Latin "hospitari"

Related words: hospedaje (accommodations), hospedería (not sure...), huésped (guest), hospiciano(again, not sure...), inhospedable(again, not sure...), inhospitalario(inhospitable), inhóspito(inhospitable, again...), etc.

Thanks! I'm not sure I get all of your terms (see above....) - it really helps me increase my vocabulary when I look at all of these connected words. Also, what is the difference between inhospitalario and inhóspito? Or is there a difference?

[irmamar]

Hospedería: inn.
hospiciano: one who lives in an orphanage.
inhospedable = inhospitalario.

La selva es inhóspita (it's quite difficult to live there, this is an uncomfortable place to live).

El dueño de ese hotel es inhospitalario / inhóspito con los extraños (he has a lack of hospitality)

Inhóspito is more used with things (places: jungle, desert, etc.) and inhospitalario is more used with people.

[laepelba]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Hospedería: inn.
hospiciano: one who lives in an orphanage.
inhospedable = inhospitalario.

La selva es inhóspita (it's quite difficult to live there, this is an uncomfortable place to live).

El dueño de ese hotel es inhospitalario / inhóspito con los extraños (he has a lack of hospitality)

Inhóspito is more used with things (places: jungle, desert, etc.) and inhospitalario is more used with people.

AHhhHhhhhhHhhhh.... thank you VERY much!! MUY helpful!!

So, hospiciano = huérfano?

[CrOtALiTo]

Originally Posted by Tomisimo

Yes. Read the first post.

There says House?

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by laepelba

AHhhHhhhhhHhhhh.... thank you VERY much!! MUY helpful!!

So, hospiciano = huérfano?

Hospiciano = huérfano que ha vivido o vive en un hospicio. Not all the orphans live in an orphanage.

Anyway, hospiciano and hospicio are words a bit old-fashioned. You won't find them in common speech, but in novels surely (above all if you read Dickens in Spanish ). We say "orfelinato" or "orfanato" instead of "hospicio". Though there aren't orphanages here in Spain nowadays. All the children live in flats, with guardians (tutores ); that's much better for them .

[CrOtALiTo]

What does flats mean?

[Tomisimo]

Originally Posted by CrOtALiTo

There says House?

Look 2 lines above that.

Originally Posted by CrOtALiTo

What does flats mean?

flat

A couple more related words:

• hospital
• hospice

probably also related:

• host
• hostess
• hostler
• hostel

maybe also related: (as antonyms?)

• hostage
• hostile