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1. Why would these images cause European monarchs to react in horror?
Suppose you're Marie-Antoinette at Versailles, and you see 6000 angry women coming at you. If you do nothing, they will attack the castle looking for something to eat. If you shoot at them, you can have a social revolt....... At the end you have a revolt. Then think you're the spanish/english/austrian king, and you heard what has happened in France. And you think ¿If my folk does revolt? 2. How might peasants in neighboring European countries react? Peasants in neighboring European countries might do the same thing, encouraged to revolt. The answer it's OK, but you should add that it depens of the current king. Beloved kings/very armed kings usually ahve less revolts. greetings ![]()
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Sí, me parece que la monarquía francesa no conocía a su gente. Si es verdad que María Antonietta dijo que se coman budin, fue porque no entendía lo que es el hambre. No era por chiste sino por falta de entender que su gente no tenían suficiente comida. Vivían en un mundo muy apartado y por eso la gente odiaba la monarquía del último Luis (not you crotalito
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It probably wasn't Marie Antoinette who said, "Let them eat cake/pastry." This is a translation of the French "qu'ils mangent de la brioche," which apparently appeared in writing prior to her reign.
In Spanish, the phrase is rendered, "Que coman pastel" or "Que coman torta." Each is also said in the plural. Last edited by Rusty; December 01, 2008 at 07:48 AM. |
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pastel, torta, bizcocho, pudín (not budin as I used in a previous post) are all words for cake. I think it's one of those words that change from country to country. Pastel in Puerto Rico is a tamal made with root vegetables instead of corn and wrapped in a big green bijao or banana leaf.
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I found the phrase with the first three words you listed (pasteles is most common), but not pudin/pudín or budín (both are valid words, but they weren't associated with the phrase on the Internet).
In Central America, where I learned Spanish, a cake is una torta and a pie is un pastel. These words are not interchangeable there. But I see that a cake is called un pastel in some of the dictionaries I consult. Check out the DRAE definitions for all these words. I wish they had pictures. ![]() |
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Sorry Jessica, but one last thing about cakes in Spanish. I think that cakes as we know them (high torts with frosting) are uncommon in
Spain. Maybe that's the reason the word for cake is very regional in other Spanish-speaking countries.
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