Enfoque

[DailyWord]

This is a discussion thread for the Daily Spanish Word for June 22, 2009

enfoque (masculine noun (el)) — focus, emphasis. Look up enfoque in the dictionary

El enfoque de este proyecto es darles una mejor calidad de vida a los residentes.
This project's focus is to give the residents a better quality of life.

[bobjenkins]

El enfoque de mis estudios en español es entendiendo la palabra hablada.

[chileno]

También punto de vista (point of view.)

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by bobjenkins

El enfoque de mis estudios en español es entendiendo la palabra hablada.

"Entender" instead of "entendiendo".

I think it's the same in English: "to understand", isn't it?

[chileno]

Originally Posted by irmamar

"Entender" instead of "entendiendo".

I think it's the same in English: "to understand", isn't it?

understanding = entender or entendiendo

Eating pizza everyday is bad for your health.

I am understanding you.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by chileno

understanding = entender or entendiendo

Eating pizza everyday is bad for your health.

I am understanding you.

Yes, I understand you, but in the example given by the Dailyword was:

This project's focus is to give - an infinitive, as we'd use in Spanish: dar.

I take the opportunity to ask a question about the genitive case. I thought it was used with persons (for instance, Jame's book), but here I can see that it's used with a noun (project's). Could someone explain it to me? Thanks

[bobjenkins]

Originally Posted by bobjenkins

El enfoque de mis estudios en español es entendiendo la palabra hablada.

Irmamar, trato de decir
The focus of my studies in spanish is understanding the spoken word.

Pero lo que dijiste es mejor

The focus of my studies in spanish is to understand the spoken word

[poli]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Yes, I understand you, but in the example given by the Dailyword was:

This project's focus is to give - an infinitive, as we'd use in Spanish: dar.

I take the opportunity to ask a question about the genitive case. I thought it was used with persons (for instance, Jame's book), but here I can see that it's used with a noun (project's). Could someone explain it to me? Thanks

Names are nouns. Just about any noun have the ability to possess.
The automobiles's tire
Jane's shoe
etc

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by poli

Names are nouns. Just about any noun have the ability to possess.
The automobiles's tire
Jane's shoe
etc

I thought it was just used with proper names (I think "proper names" means "nombres propios"). Thanks.

[bobjenkins]

Originally Posted by irmamar

I thought it was just used with proper names (I think "proper names" means "nombres propios"). Thanks.

Se podría usarlo con cualquiera nombre (person/place/thing)

The house's window
Bob's winning lottery ticket
The Earth's oceans

Espero que te ayude

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by bobjenkins

Se podría usarlo con cualquiera nombre (person/place/thing)

The house's window
Bob's winning lottery ticket
The Earth's oceans

Espero que te ayude

Yes, it helps me and I understand it, but it surprises me a lot.

[bobjenkins]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Yes, it helps me and I understand it, but it surprises me a lot.

¿Cómo te dices en español, "the house's window"?

¿La ventana de la casa?

Creo que "posesión + de + dueño/poseedor" = "owner/possessor + 's + possession

No olvides que cuando el nombre del poseedor tiene un "s" a la fin en inglés solamente se añade, " ' "

Chris' shoes
Chris's shoes

Sí me equivocaba lo siento

[CrOtALiTo]

The truck's focus is to be the best.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by bobjenkins

¿Cómo te dices en español, "the house's window"?

¿La ventana de la casa?

Creo que "posesión + de + dueño/poseedor" = "owner/possessor + 's + possession

No olvides que cuando el nombre del poseedor tiene un "s" a la fin en inglés solamente se añade, " ' "

Chris' shoes
Chris's shoes

Sí me equivocaba lo siento

Yes, we say "la ventana de la casa".

I knew about "s' " when the word ended with "s". But I thought you couldn't say "house's window", but the window of the house.

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by bobjenkins

No olvides que cuando el nombre del poseedor tiene un "s" al fin en inglés solamente se añade, " ' "

Chris' shoes
Chris's shoes

Actually, both constructs are correct. I learned, and prefer, the first style you mentioned above, but have since discovered that both styles are acceptable.

The only rule that exists is, don't mix the two styles in the same document. It's OK to use one style in one document and the other style in another document, so long as someone with a strict sense of style (and a red marker ) doesn't see both documents!


On a related note, some people like to throw the apostrophe (which is used to show possession) on the end of a family name:
I'd like you to meet the Robinson's.
I'd like you to meet the Robinsons. (Family Name: Robinson)
They're trying to keep up with the Joneses. (Family Name: Jones)

[chileno]

Originally Posted by Rusty

Actually, both constructs are correct. I learned, and prefer, the first style you mentioned above, but have since discovered that both styles are acceptable.

The only rule that exists is, don't mix the two styles in the same document. It's OK to use one style in one document and the other style in another document, so long as someone with a strict sense of style (and a red marker ) doesn't see both documents!


On a related note, some people like to throw the apostrophe (which is used to show possession) on the end of a family name:
I'd like you to meet the Robinson's.
I'd like you to meet the Robinsons. (Family Name: Robinson)
They're trying to keep up with the Joneses. (Family Name: Jones)

In the latter case shows the plural and not the possessive. However, would it be ok to use any of the possesive forms?

The Jones's home.
or
The Jones' home

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by chileno

The Jones's home.
or
The Jones' home

This question is a bit hard to answer because two different style guides conflict. The Associated Press Stylebook says proper names that end in an 's' need only an apostrophe to show possession. The Chicago Manual of Style, on the other hand, states just the opposite. Exceptions are made for names like Jesus and Moses.

In the case in question, where a family (not an individual) owns a home, the proper name must first be rendered in the plural and then the apostrophe is added. Whether another 's' is added after the apostrophe depends on which style manual you're using.

I also wanted to point out how these names are pronounced. Again, there is a conflict between the style guides.

Jones (singular - pronounced /dʒoʊnz/)
Joneses (plural - pronounced /dʒoʊnzɪz/)
Jones' (singular genitive - pronounced /dʒoʊnz/)
Jones's (singular genitive - pronounced /dʒoʊnzɪz/)
Joneses' or Joneses's (plural genitive - pronounced /dʒoʊnzɪz/)

As an aside, the 'es' plural ending is required for proper names that end in 'ch', 's', 'x' and 'z' sounds.

[irmamar]

A.C.A.C.A.C.A.C.A.C.

Originally Posted by Rusty

This question is a bit hard to answer because two different style guides conflict. The Associated Press Stylebook says proper names that end in an 's' need only an apostrophe to show possession. The Chicago Manual of Style, on the other hand, states just the opposite. Exceptions are made for names like Jesus and Moses.

In the case in question, where a family (not an individual) owns a home, the proper name must first be rendered in the plural and then the apostrophe is added. Whether another 's' is added after the apostrophe depends on which style manual you're using.

I also wanted to point out how these names are pronounced. Again, there is a conflict between the style guides.

Jones (singular - pronounced /dʒoʊnz/)
Joneses (plural - pronounced /dʒoʊnzɪz/)
Jones' (singular genitive - pronounced /dʒoʊnz/)
Jones's (singular genitive - pronounced /dʒoʊnzɪz/)
Joneses' or Joneses's (plural genitive - pronounced /dʒoʊnzɪz/)

As an aside, the 'es' plural ending is required for proper names that end in 'ch', 's', 'x' and 'z' sounds.

Good explanation, Rusty. Thanks

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by irmamar

A.C.A.C.A.C.A.C.A.C.

Good explanation, Rusty. Thanks

You're welcome.
Please explain the stuff you wrote at the top.

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by Rusty

You're welcome.
Please explain the stuff you wrote at the top.

Oh, I didn't see it! What's that? I didn't wrote it

Maybe my computer is crazy sometimes, sorry