El uso de ocurrir(se)?

[EmpanadaRica]

Creo que 'ocurrir' en español normalmente significa 'to occur' (i.e. to happen) o 'to occur to (someone)' en inglés - ¿es correcto?

Pero 'ocurrirse' se utiliza de otra manera, es decir como en este ejemplo por Angelica en otro hilo:

El Secretario de Hacienda dijo que no teníamos crisis. ¿Cómo se le ocurre semejante esperpento?
The Secretary of Treasury said we didn't have a crisis. How dare he say such nonsense?

¿Siempre se utiliza 'ocurrirse' de esta manera/ con este sentido como en la frase encima?

Creo que me confunde un poco porque se utiliza 'ocurrir' mucho en la forma personal tercera (third person) , junto a un objeto indirecto. Entonces creo que a veces cunfundo 'ocurrir a alguien' (por ejemplo: me ocurre' ) con 'ocurrise' (como en la frase encima).

Entonces:

' ¿Cómo le ocurrió hacerlo?' -- more or less: How did it happen to him to do that/ How could he have done that (??)// How did he end up doing that (??) or: How did it occur to him to do that?

' ¿Cómo se le ocurrió hacerlo?' -- How dare he do that..??
(By the way would this be like: What (on earth) was he thinking, doing that..? )

¿O me equivoco?

¿Alguién podría darme unos ejemplos claros del uso de estos dos verbos para clarificar la diferencia por favor?

[chileno]

De acuerdo a RAE, it means "to come to your mind". In other words, to think...

Your appreciation is so close to reality that is a delight to help you.

You are really squeezing your brains.

[EmpanadaRica]

Originally Posted by chileno

De acuerdo a RAE, it means "to come to your mind". In other words, to think...

Your appreciation is so close to reality that is a delight to help you.

Haha.. wow,well thanx so much! And thanx for the explanation also!
In fact it's a real delight to be helped by you and everyone here!

You are really squeezing your brains.

That's for sure... Unfortunately sometimes no juice comes out and I am always thirsty for more..

[chileno]

Originally Posted by EmpanadaRica

Haha.. wow,well thanx so much! And thanx for the explanation also!
In fact it's a real delight to be helped by you and everyone here!

You are very welcome.

You are really squeezing your brains.

Originally Posted by EmpanadaRica

That's for sure... Unfortunately sometimes no juice comes out and I am always thirsty for more..

Indicative of curiosity...

I'm thirsty all the time.

[brute]

It occurs to me, that we use the same construction in English.

[chileno]

Originally Posted by brute

It occurs to me, that we use the same construction in English.

Of course...

That's why I recommend to read.