[Other] ¿Quieres aprender holandés?

[EmpanadaRica]

¡Hola a todos!

Well as there wasn't any thread yet about my native language, and as some of you have expressed some curiosity of wishing to learn a few basics, I thought I' d start a Dutch thread.

So if anyone has any particular questions regarding Dutch or how to say things in Dutch, I would be happy to answer. I could even make you an mp3 for pronunciation if you would like me to.

I'll maintain English for now in this thread frstly to keep it accessible to everyone, and secondly, well my Spanish isn't good enough yet to understand the nuances..

I'll start with a few basics...





English: Dutch:

• 'Hello' - 'Hallo' /'Hoi'
• 'How are you?' - 'Hoe gaat het met je?'
• 'How are you?' (formal) - 'Hoe gaat het met u?'
• 'My name is' - 'Ik heet'
• 'Nice to meet you' - 'Aangenaam kennis te maken!'
• ' I like (to)' - ' Ik vind het leuk'
• 'Thank you' - 'Dank je wel'
• 'Thank you' (formal) - ' Dank u wel'
• 'Goodmorning' - 'Goedemorgen'
• 'Goodafternoon' - 'Goedemiddag'
• 'Goodevening' - ' Goedenavond'
• 'Regards'/'Saludos' - 'Groetjes'
• 'I live in Spain' - 'Ik woon in Spanje'
• 'Nice to meet you!' - 'Wat leuk om je te ontmoeten!'
• 'Until later'/Hasta luego - 'Tot later'
• 'Until soon/Hasta pronto' - 'Tot snel!'
• 'See you'/ Nos vemos - 'Tot ziens'

For those of you who are curious about the pronunciation, I have uploaded some mp3's

That should be enough for a first acquiantance
If anyone has any requests or things they want to know I'd be happy to help!

[Rusty]

You'll need to upload your MP3's in order for us to access them (use Manage Attachments button below).

[EmpanadaRica]

ok ¡Gracias Rusty!

Here are the first five: (Hope this works!)

[EmpanadaRica]

Ok that seems to work, so onwards with the online Dutch lesson 1.

[EmpanadaRica]

And the last few..

[Jessica]

Looks interesting. I'll try to find the time to learn some ^_^

[EmpanadaRica]

Originally Posted by jchen

Looks interesting. I'll try to find the time to learn some ^_^

If you want to know anything in particular, just let me know!

[irmamar]

Thanks, EmpanadaRica, it's very interesting

[EmpanadaRica]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Thanks, EmpanadaRica, it's very interesting

¡De nada!

¡He puesto específicamente unas palabras con el /j/ porque es tu pronunciación preferida..!

[irmamar]

Originally Posted by EmpanadaRica

¡De nada!

¡He puesto específicamente unas palabras con el /j/ porque es tu pronunciación preferida..!

¡Qué mala eres!

Yo sé contar hasta 10 y el presente del verbo ser, pero no sé escribirlo bien. ¿Puedes hacerlo? Gracias, guapa.

[EmpanadaRica]

Originally Posted by irmamar

¡Qué mala eres!

Lo siento..

Yo sé contar hasta 10 y el presente del verbo ser, pero no sé escribirlo bien. ¿Puedes hacerlo? Gracias, guapa.

¡Por supuesto, con mucho gusto!

1 = een
2 = twee
3 = drie
4 = vier
5 = vijf
6 = zes
7 = zeven
8 = acht
9 = negen
10 = tien

En esta pagina web puedes escuchar como se pronuncia estes números.

To be (ser/estar) = zijn

I am = Ik ben
you are = jij bent (or je bent)
he/she/it is = hij/zij/het is
we are = wij zijn (or: we zijn)
you are = jullie zijn
they are = zij zijn (or: ze zijn)

Y la pronunciación (disculpa, puedo encargar sólo 5 en un post entonces no es completo).

[irmamar]

Muchas gracias, EmpanadaRica . Sí, la pronunciación todavía la recuerdo, pero muchas veces se me olvida cómo se escriben las poquitas cosas que sé.

Interesante enlace, gracias.

[brute]

Wow!! This is great!! Now we are able to speak to each other using audio files. We can practise our pronunciation in many languages.

[EmpanadaRica]

Originally Posted by irmamar

Muchas gracias, EmpanadaRica . Sí, la pronunciación todavía la recuerdo, pero muchas veces se me olvida cómo se escriben las poquitas cosas que sé.

Interesante enlace, gracias.

¡¡De nada!!

Originally Posted by brute

Wow!! This is great!! Now we are able to speak to each other using audio files. We can practise our pronunciation in many languages.

Haha..Yes I can actually remember the days where I sent a tape across the globe to a friend with physical mail which took for ever (and cost a heap of money!) if it ever even got there (because thick envelopes seemed to always attract attention or suspicion or interest about the content..)

Got to love the possibilities internet is offering for all the linguists out there!!!

[ROBINDESBOIS]

How nice of you. Everybody should open a page to teach a different language, at least the basics. Thank you EMPANADILLA . LOL

[ROBINDESBOIS]

empanadilla como hay que entrar en el hilo que creaste de tumbas, escribi una pero lo he perdido. Dime

[EmpanadaRica]

¡De nada, con mucho gusto!

Originally Posted by ROBINDESBOIS

empanadilla como hay que entrar en el hilo que creaste de tumbas, escribi una pero lo he perdido. Dime

Ya lo he explicado en este hilo
Espero que sea más claro ahora.

[brute]

Een kruimeldief is een kleine, handzame, oplaadbare stofzuiger, waarmee snel kruimels en dergelijke kunnen worden opgeruimd. De kruimeldief wordt dan opgeborgen in een oplaadstation, zodat hij altijd klaar is voor direct gebruik.
De kruimeldief bestaat uit een klein opvangreservoir voor het stof en de kruimels, dat regelmatig in de prullenbak geleegd dient te worden. Omdat het geen snoer heeft, kan het gemakkelijk overal in huis worden gebruikt.

The Dutch word order seems very close to German except for the "inversions" shown in red. Are there any other important word order differences between Dutch & German?

Een kruimeldief sounds like a real criminal thief, rather than a mere crumb stealer!

[EmpanadaRica]

Originally Posted by brute

Een kruimeldief is een kleine, handzame, oplaadbare stofzuiger, waarmee snel kruimels en dergelijke kunnen worden opgeruimd. De kruimeldief wordt dan opgeborgen in een oplaadstation, zodat hij altijd klaar is voor direct gebruik.
De kruimeldief bestaat uit een klein opvangreservoir voor het stof en de kruimels, dat regelmatig in de prullenbak geleegd dient te worden. Omdat het geen snoer heeft, kan het gemakkelijk overal in huis worden gebruikt.

The Dutch word order seems very close to German except for the "inversions" shown in red. Are there any other important word order differences between Dutch & German?

hola Brute.

Well in fact this is kind of difficult to answer in general because there are a number of reasons and instances in which wordorder changes, whereas this is not always the case in German. In fact those are the ones my German friends have the most trouble with.

It may depend on the 'voegwoord' that is being used. (i.e. grammatical conjunction of the main clause and subclause(s). In Dutch there are two kinds, neveschikkende voegwoorden where the wordorder does not change, and onderschikkende voegwoorden where it does.

Another determinant of wordorder has a lot to do with whether you are dealing with a compound verb or not. For instance:
'Vergaan' (to be destroyed, to perish) , or ' Verdergaan' (to move on, to move further, to continue, to go on). The first verb is not a compound verb, the latter is.

'De schepen vergaan'
' De schepen waren ook zonder kapitein zeker vergaan'
The ships would have surely been destroyed even without a captain.

or
' Ik kan niet verdergaan'.
' Ik had zonder hem niet verder kunnen gaan .'
' I couldn't have moved on/gone on without him')

These are simple examples but it can sometimes get confusing if multiple compound verbs or auxiliary verbs are being used.


The third reason for changing wordorder would be when certain particles or adverbs are used at the beginning of a sentence to give it more emphasis. E.g.

' Ik wist toen niet wat hij bedoelde' - I didn't know what he meant at the time.

' Toen wist ik pas wat hij bedoelde!' - Then I understood/found out what he meant.

I believe this latter inversion takes place in German as well by the way.

The fourth is when sentences are being put in passive voice such as here ' geleegd dient te worden' (i.e. should be made empty). Though technically it would not be wrong to say ' dient te worden geleegd' by the way.

Een kruimeldief sounds like a real criminal thief, rather than a mere crumb stealer!

No it' s a petty thief..

[CrOtALiTo]

It's seem some hard.