Una derrama

[ROBINDESBOIS]

Derrama is when after paying all building fees, there's still some extra payments to make. In Spanish we say, there is a derrama of 200 Euros for example.
English?

[poli]

cost overrun

[ROBINDESBOIS]

could u use it in context please?

[Perikles]

It is used most often in finances of a communal complex of the kind found in Spain, but not in the UK, so there is no easy equivalent in BrE. I have often had to translate the word into English in that context, and the best I can think of is an apportionment. This is not very good, because not many English people have met the word.

The community funds were insufficient to cover the one-off cost of installation of a satellite disk, so the administrator was authorized to take one apportionment payment for the project.

[Cubanboy]

Originally Posted by ROBINDESBOIS

Derrama is when after paying all building fees, there's still some extra payments to make. In Spanish we say, there is a derrama of 200 Euros for example.
English?

Derrama - apportionment / proportional assessment / proportional payment of an extraordinary expense.

[poli]

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding something here, but unexpected additional
fees, the type that often incurr in building expenses, are known as
cost overruns in North American English. Apportionments must be a British
term.

[Awaken]

Originally Posted by poli

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding something here, but unexpected additional
fees, the type that often incurr in building expenses, are known as
cost overruns in North American English. Apportionments must be a British
term.

A cost overrun assumes you had a budget for a specific project and you went over it. I'm not sure this is the case for this word in Spanish.

[ROBINDESBOIS]

can you give me a sentence :
Se ruega a los Srs propietarios ingresen en la cuenta de la comunidad 200 euros de derrama.
Translate please.

[poli]

Originally Posted by ROBINDESBOIS

can you give me a sentence :
Se ruega a los Srs propietarios ingresen en la cuenta de la comunidad 200 euros de derrama.
Translate please.

It's requested that the gentlemen proprietors pitch in an additional 200
euros to the community chest to cover cost overruns.

[ROBINDESBOIS]

Perfect. thank you very much !

Originally Posted by Awaken

A cost overrun assumes you had a budget for a specific project and you went over it. I'm not sure this is the case for this word in Spanish.

If the project is a house we say se ha pasado de presupuesto.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by poli

It's requested that the gentlemen proprietors pitch in an additional 200
euros to the community chest to cover cost overruns.

I'm not wishing to be awkward here, but this is really misleading. First, it would really be the community bank account, not the chest. Second, this of one-off payment does not work like that. The specific kind of derrama operating in Spanish communities is never a fixed amount per person, but proportional to their involvement in the community. Let's say there is a community of 100 apartments with some 2-bed and 1-bed apartments. The community fees are paid in proportion to surface area of freehold, so an owner of a 2-bed apartment pays around 1.2%, and an owner of a 1-bed pays 0.8%.

An extra payment would then be paid in the same proportion, so supposing there is a bill of 10,000 euros, each 2-bed owner would pay, say, 120 euros, and each 1-bed owner would pay 80 euros. In fact, each community has a list of exactly how much each owner would pay, and the payment is more accurately described as an apportionment, because the proportions are different.

Jeez - this is boring.

[ROBINDESBOIS]

In fact , I think it´s interesting.

[sosia]

I also think it's interesting.

[Awaken]

I learned something new =) Thanks Perikles.

[JosephThomas]

I would simply say,
this is not technical or undebatable

Additional expenses / Additional costs
"I payed my rent and my hydro bill, but still had $200 of additional expenses. Stupid bathtub!"
(italics were unnecessary additions for sentence length)

I don't have a word in my vocabulary for what you mean
.. personally

[ROBINDESBOIS]

It works.

[AngelicaDeAlquezar]

Just for the sake of nuances: "Derrama económica" in Mexico is not an expense, but a side profit from people who's not directly related to an economic project (an industrial development, a public work, a commercial iniciative...).
It's a "spillover" in economics jargon.


- La derrama económica que ha dejado la nueva carretera en el pueblo es de varios millones de pesos anuales.

- La feria ganadera produjo una derrama económica importante para el municipio y las ciudades del rededor.

- El nuevo centro turístico del estado genera una derrama económica de 5 millones de pesos al mes.