Ash (tree)

[JPablo]

Oxford bilingual gives me "fresno"
Cambridge gives "cedro"
These are two different trees... at least in my village.

Random House gives,
ash 1. any of various trees of the genus Fraxinus, of the olive family, esp. F. excelsior, of Europe and Asia, or F. americana (white ash), of North America, having opposite, pinnate leaves and purplish flowers in small clusters.

So, I'd think "fresno" (Fraxinus excelsior) is the correct translation, given that "cedro" (Cedrus libani) does not fit the taxonomy...

However, being an ignorant on the matter, I submit my question, hoping someone can shed some additional (fully qualified) light...

[Perikles]

I'm not very qualified, but ash and cedar are very different trees. Ash is fresno, and certainly not cedro. Cambridge got it very wrong.

[chileno]

I know that cedro = cedar.

[Elaina]

Agree....
--Cedar = cedro
--Ash=== fresno

[JPablo]

Well, thank you all, for your fully qualified assessments on this botanical issue...

[Glen]

There is a proverb associated with the ash tree and how soon it sprouts leaves in the spring. Probably too lengthy to post in the Dictionary section, so here goes.

If the ash comes out before the oak it will be a summer of dust and smoke, but if the oak comes out before the ash, it will be a summer of wet and splash.

It may or may not be true. I can never think to look until after they have both already sprouted. Maybe next year!

[JPablo]

Ha!
Well, thank you, Glen... (Let me know next year if you confirm it to be true!!)

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by Glen

There is a proverb associated with the ash tree and how soon it sprouts leaves in the spring. Probably too lengthy to post in the Dictionary section, so here goes.

If the ash comes out before the oak it will be a summer of dust and smoke, but if the oak comes out before the ash, it will be a summer of wet and splash.

It may or may not be true. I can never think to look until after they have both already sprouted. Maybe next year!

I know it as: Ash before Oak, we're in for a soak, Oak before Ash, we're in for a splash. I lived on a farm with plenty of ash and oak trees, and because the weather pattern was important, I monitored this over about 10 years. The trouble is that the time when they spout leaves depends very much on the age of the tree and how exposed they are. I found absolutely no correlation at all between overall weather in summer and tree sprouting. The more mature oak trees were always the last ones to sprout anyway.

[aleCcowaN]

Very interesting. Now that you mentioned it, I noticed that fresnos (Fraxinus Americana) in our streets, 46% of 370,000 trees in Autonomous City of Buenos Aires (like D.F. in Mexico and D.C. in US), sprout lately (a light bulb turned on) when weather is dry during August and September, while other species seem to sprout about the same time. I've always been intrigued by that and failed to get the pattern. Thank to you, I know now.

[JPablo]

Well, thank you all. (Interesting how some old saws rhyme very well, but not always turn to be factual...)